Willie Diverty

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Willie Diverty, second right, middle row

Willie Diverty was a well known figure in Scottish athletics circles for many, many years as a first class organiser with a very friendly manner and – of course, first and foremost perhaps – for his connections to Glasgow University.    He died on 1st December 1969 in Killearn Hospital, having been admitted in October.   He was involved in track & field, cross-country and road running almost exclusively for Glasgow University and was particularly associated with the well-established University Road Race.  He was a member of the Scottish Cross-Country Union and was President in season 1968-’69 when the World Cross Country Championship was held in Clydebank in Scotland.   Like everything else that he was involved with, it was a tremendous success.  Some say that he was originally a member of Victoria Park AAC and certainly his son Graeme was a member, but there seems to be no real evidence to support this and for most of us he first appears at GU H&H AGM in season 1956-’57.  Like many of his generation, such as Jack Crawford of Springburn,  he was always very well turned out with collar and tie, well pressed trousers and shoes properly shined.   He was President of the Hares & Hounds from 1957-’58 to 1960-’61 and again from 1966-67 to 1969-70.

Willie became Glasgow University Hares & Hounds President in season 1956-’57.   The minute of the meeting says: “Professor Campbell then intimated that as sport kept him extremely busy, he felt that the Hares & Hounds would be better served by a new President.   Stuart McFarlane then proposed Mr William Diverty, who had been present at the meeting.    He was introduced to the Hares & Hounds by Andy Galbraith and subsequently elected both as President, and as Midland District representative.”   He was re-elected the following year and his involvement with both Glasgow University and the SCCU was to continue to benefit both for some time to come.   His progress was easily seen in his being given more and more responsible tasks to fulfil – eg in the Edinburgh to Glasgow Relay, he was a coach stewart until 1960, then a place judge working mostly with Jim Morton and Walter Lawn, and then from 1966 – 1969 as Vice-President and then President of the Union.   His affiliation, where it was not ‘SNCCU’ was always Glasgow University.

During season 1958-’59 there had been difficulties with the University allowing a Youth (Under 17 runner) to race for them, when it was not allowed for under SCCU rules.   At the AGM at the end of that year, “The President, Mr Willie Diverty, mentioned “various points of difference of opinion between the Hares and Hounds  and the Scottish Cross-Country Union which had occurred during the season, mostly concerning the running of Jim Bogan (a Youth) in distances greater than three miles.   There then followed a discussion about whether the Hares and Hounds should run Youths or not.   A discussion which became extremely spirited and long drawn out.”   The verdict?   Stan Horn proposed that Youths be allowed to run subject to jurisdiction by the Committee and that proposal was carried.   Willie was subsequently re-elected.

The question of the relationship between SCCU and the Scottish Universities did not go away and at the AGM in 1960, “Mr Diverty then spoke of the seemingly habitual friction between the SCCU and the Scottish Universities.   He mentioned a letter from Jim Bogan to the aforesaid body, and requested that “those with complaints should consult himself beforehand so that he could act in his capacity as the Hares and Hounds representative to the SCCU.”   At the end of the meeting, ‘Mr Bill Diverty’ was re-elected President, with Douglas Gifford Secretary/Treasurer.

Early in the meeting at the 1961-’62 AGM, Willie spoke about a notable success from the previous season: “Mr Willie Diverty, who was present at the meeting, congratulated the Hares & Hounds for winning the William Ross Cunningham Memorial Trophy for being the most outstanding club of the 27 in GUAC during the 1960-’61 season.   The immediate past year had also been most successful with the Hares & Hounds winning the Scottish Universities Championship and coming fifth in the British Universities championship.”     There were other matters of importance to be discussed that evening and Willie was involved in several of these.   The  club had often turned out two teams and on one occasion three, Mr Diverty wondered about a cup for the second team in the Scottish Universities Cross-Country Championship.   Then “Under AOCB it was proposed that Mr Diverty should deliver a formal protest to the SCCU about the types of courses used for Championship races.   Of particular concern ere the Midland District course at Renton, which involved a number of dangerous barbed wire fences, and the National course at Hamilton which was considered by many to be tool easy to be deemed as bona fide cross country.   Jim Bogan undertook to prepare details of possible additions to the course at Hamilton, which would be submitted by Mr Diverty to the SCCU.   (When the issue was subsequently raised at the AGM of the SCCU, however, the Hares’ and Hounds views were not sympathetically received.   The National Committee considered that the types of National Championship courses were now geared to those used in international events where the emphasis was on speed.)”   At this AGM, Mr David Johnstone was elected club president but the change didn’t affect in any way Willie’s activities on behalf of the club and he continued on the SCCU Committee as club representative.

At the 1963 General Meeting, the continued progress of the Hares and Hounds was detailed and it was noted that a championship tankard had been presented by Mr George Esslemont, the City Chamberlain of Glasgow, and one of the Hares and Hounds vice-presidents.    Bill Diverty was re-elected as vice-president and in 1964 it was agreed that the Esslemont Tankard be awarded to the first University man home in the Universities Championship and Calum Laing was the winner in its first two years.   Another trophy was presented to the club: Craig Sharp donated a trophy to be known as the J McCulloch Award in memory of his friend and it was to be awarded as a result of a points contest for races in which the Hares & Hounds took part – the first winner was Allan Faulds.   At the 1964-’65 AGM “Mr Diverty  (Vice President and the club’s Midland District representative) then spoke.   He mentioned how he served on the SCCU General Committee and presented all the Universities views there The SCCU were now demanding 16 athletes to compete in a Scottish Universities’ Select against a SCCU team.   Not all the Universities agreed to this, and the matter would need to be finalised at the next SCCU meeting.   The Hares and Hounds believed that 12 was the maximum number that could be raised.”  

The club had three vice-presidents – George Dallas, George Esslemont and Willie Diverty – and all were present at the 1966 meeting and Willie was again elected President.   The Glasgow University Road Race had been going for several years by then and Diverty suggested the incorporation of a team event.   The meeting however felt that this was an event for individuals, it was almost unique in Scotland and that it should not be changed.    President Diverty went on attending meetings and presiding at General Meetings in his usual manner but at the meeting at the end of the 1967-’68 season

“In his Presidential report Mr Diverty launched straight into an attack on the year’s worst performance, ie the Edinburgh to Glasgow Relay Race.   He hoped that the Hares and Hounds would qualify for next year’s event, as he said it would be most embarrassing for him  (as President of the SCCU) if his club’s team was not represented.   However, he expected Paisley Harriers to drop out, thus improving the Hares and Hounds chances of competing.   Willie Diverty emphasised the importance of the Edinburgh to Glasgow race, saying it was the major event of the season – being even more prestigious than the National Championships.    Mr Diverty said that he had point out to his fellow SCCU officials how the Universities were at a disadvantage when it came to picking teams for races early in the season, as they did not know the form of their new members.   As a consequence of his intervention, the Midland District relay had been put back to the first weekend in November, however this would require an alteration to the date of one of the Hares and Hounds own races.”   

He was however re-elected as President and then when Graeme Orr proposed a joint tour of Ireland with Strathclyde University, “Mr Diverty however was of the opinion ‘that Strathclyde has a disreputable element and that the tour might disintegrate into a brawl.’   Members strongly disagreed with this although it was pointed out that numbers would be so great as to pose a great burden on the hosts.   Finally at the end of the meeting it was agreed to prepare a letter for the start of the new season in 1968-’69 describing the club’s activities and Mr Diverty would write a welcome to the club.

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Willie Diverty as team manager at the Cross des Capitals  with John Myatt and Gareth Bryan Jones

The meeting in 1969 was held while Willie Diverty was President of the SCCU and he remarked on it in his review of the season.   “In his Presidential report Mr Diverty said that he was extremely honoured to become President of the SCCU  and it reflected greatly on the Hares and Hounds.   In fact, only once before (in the 1890’s) had a University supplied a SCCU President – he had been from Edinburgh.   Mr Diverty reported that the International Cross-Country Championships held at Clydebank had gone very well .   Mr Diverty had also approached Dr Charles Hepburn (Honorary President of the ICCU for 1968-’69 and a Hares & Hounds vice-president) regarding a trophy for the University Road Race and he had been delighted to provide the club with one. “   Of course, as President of the national governing body, Willie Diverty was re-elected president of the club.

All seemed well but Willie was admitted to Killearn Hospital in October 1969 and died on 1st December that year.   It was a shock to everybody who knew him – and that meant just about all involved in the organisation and administration of the sport in Scotland at the time.   The history of the Glasgow University Hares & Hounds includes the following in the minutes of the AGM on 9th March 1970.

“The Secretary’s report began on a sad note with Alasdair Reid expressing his deepest regret on the death of the President Mr Willie Diverty. Alasdair said that one of Willie’s major achievements on behalf of the Club was the University Road Race which had gone from strength to strength. The former Captain and Secretary Ray Baillie had written to Dr Charles Hepburn in Canada, and suggested that the trophy which he had donated for the Road Race be a memorial to Mr Diverty and named after him.”

What has been reproduced above from the Hares & Hounds history covers his time with them but for what Willie was like, we can look at what has been said after his death.

He was the regular correspondent for Scottish news and results in ‘Athletics Weekly’ and after they had published a short obituary on 13th January, the following letter was published in the December 20th   issue:

                                 

“Dear Sir,

May I be allowed to join you in your expression of deep regret at the untimely death of your Scottish Correspondent, Willie Diverty?   I met him many times in the last few years, both here in the south and in Scotland. Indeed, I had the pleasure of accommodating him during the week-end of this year’s AAA Championships, when he seemed in excellent health. It is hard to realise that we shall see him no more.   His was a cheerful, friendly, extrovert personality and his obvious pleasure in ‘having a word’ with all and sundry in the world of athletics and his gregarious good-humour invited one to reciprocate, which was easy in the face of such disarming enthusiasm for the company of his fellow man.

His notes in your columns for so many years were concerned with facts, figures and people rather than with the projection of his own personality and we in the south interested in Scottish Athletics will sadly miss the name of Willie Diverty each Friday. He would have been the first to wish his successor well and hope that he enjoy the job as surely as he, Willie, did for so long.

                                                            A.Glen Haig,

                                                            New Malden, Surrey.

Glen Haig was one of the best known officials in British athletics at the time.

Graeme Orr who was a working member of the Hares & Hounds and had been their secretary in 1967-’68, tells us that “No account of the Hares & Hounds would be complete without a mention of Willie Diverty, our constant companion and “manager”.   I insert the inverted commas because I never recall Willie discussing tactics or giving hints on training or style.   He was a cheerleader and administrator par excellence, however my mother still remembers the Saturday morning phone calls from Willie  “Is Graeme running?”

Colin Youngson from Aberdeen adds the following comments:

“I first ran (rather poorly) for Scottish Universities against SCCU Select in December 1967, in my second year at Aberdeen University.   I still have the friendly selection letter that Willie Diverty signed then; and once again in 1968. More importantly, he is mentioned in the Edinburgh to Glasgow Race booklet as SCCU vice-president; then in 1968 as President. He features as a timekeeper at the 1968 SU Athletics Championships at St Andrews.

On Saturday 22nd March the International Cross Country Championships (Cross Des Nations) was held in a hilly public park in Clydebank, Scotland.    AU runners went down in a minibus and thoroughly enjoyed spectating.    There was a smiling photo of Willie Diverty in the programme, since he was ‘Le President’ of the ‘Federation Ecossaise de Cross’.    After a great battle, Gaston Roelants (Belgium) defeated Dick Taylor (England), with Scotland’s Ian McCafferty outkicking England’s Mike Tagg for the bronze medal.    Dave Bedford (England) strolled away with the Junior International title.    It was a memorable, thoroughly successful day, and Willie Diverty must have received many congratulations, due to his committee’s excellent organisation.

I remember Willie as a cheerful, chatty Glaswegian who exuded enthusiasm and encouraged all young runners. He certainly contributed a great deal to University athletics, on track, road and country. Alex Johnston took over from Willie as Secretary/Organiser of the Scottish Universities Athletics Board.”

The Universities E-G

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. . .Fergus Murray to G  Evans, 1964

The Blue Riband of the Scottish winter season was undoubtedly the eight stage Edinburgh to Glasgow Relay.   Started in the early 1930’s and suspended during the war years, it started up again n April 1949 and the first University teams to take part were Edinburgh and Glasgow.   Other teams to compete were from Strathclyde University, Aberdeen University and St Andrews University.   Both Edinburgh University and Glasgow University took part in 1954 and they were the only two to run in the event until 1959 when St Andrews entered a team.   All three took part until 1964 when both Strathclyde and Aberdeen brought the number of university teams in the race up to five – or a quarter of the total.   When St Andrews finished 20th and last in1965, they dropped out until 1972.    The remaining four teams continued to turn out  until that year when Aberdeen dropped out for a year.

Other than Edinburgh University (17th in 1988, and 17th again in 1991, there were no teams from any of the Universities after 1986 – and the newer establishments such as Dundee University and Heriot-Watt University did not take part at any time.   The respective totals for appearances in the race were: Glasgow University Hares & Hounds  30,   Edinburgh University Hare & Hounds 34,   Strathclyde University 13,   Aberdeen University  9, St Andrews 9.

Medals were won by Glasgow University for third place in 1960 and 1962 and by Edinburgh University for second in 1964, first in 1965, 1966 and 1967 and third in 1969.

The best university team ever to have taken part is universally accepted to be the Edinburgh squad from . . . . . the mid 60s.   The team is profiled by Colin Youngson here   and the Glasgow squad is here

Glasgow University was the first university to win medals in the race.   The 1960 race was won by Shettleston Harriers from Bellahouston Harriers with the students third – Colin Shields in his centenary history of the SCCU commented on the good runs from Douglas Gifford and Calum Laing but the truth is that the whole team ran well.   Jim Bogan was twelfth on the first stage and Calum pulled them up to fourth with the second fastest run on the second stage, only Joe Connolly of Bellahouston was faster and then Ken Rogers (second on the stage) moved up to third.   WS Hunter (third fastest) dropped back to fourth and the place was held by J Gray (seventh fastest) and Douglas Gifford (fourth fastest on the long sixth stage) before Dick Hartley on the seventh stage moved up to third with second fastest and then Tor Denstad ( second fastest on the stage) held that to the finish.   It was a very good team performance to get in among the medals.   In 1962, the performance was again a superb team effort :   Dick Hartley was fourth on the first leg, Calum Laing ran the fastest time on the second stage and moved up to first place with Jim Bogan on the short third stage losing a place only to the day’s fastest time to hand over in second.   Gifford held the place with fourth quickest on the stage, followed by Ray Baillie who dropped to third, although he did run the fourth fastest time on his stage.   Allan Faulds (fourth fastest), Cameron Shepherd (third) and B Scott ( eighth) held third to see the bronze medals safely going back to Westerlands.

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Start of the race in 1960: Jim Bogan of Glasgow fourth from the right with Robert Clark of Edinburgh fifth from the right

If the GU H&H efforts were good, Edinburgh University was quite outstanding and they were in fact the best cross-country and road team in the country in the mid to late 60’s.   Their progress had been steady – 10th in 1960, 9th in 1961, 8th in 1962, 5th in 1963 – and then an excellent second in 1964.   The heroes were Alistair Blamire (4th), Fergus Murray (1st), G Evans (1st), Jim Wight (4th), Chris Elson (3rd), Roger Young (4th), Frank Gamwell (3rd) and Ian Young (2nd).   Murray and Ian Young had fastest times on their stages.   Going in to the 1965 race, they were slight favourites but Motherwell YMCA with the Brown brothers, Ian McCafferty. Bert McKay and Dick Wedlock and many very good support runners had won the race three times in succession and were well capable of winning it again.  However, it was not to be for the Lanarkshire team – it was to be the first time that a University team had won the big race.   The ‘Glasgow Herald’ said:

Edinburgh University have done it at last.   With a team of eight green-vested, grim faced stoics they hurled Motherwell YMCA’s efforts to the ground on Saturday in the Edinburgh to Glasgow relay race, and in so doing set a wonderful race record of 3 hr 36 min 32 sec, more than seven minutes faster than the previous best time, set by Shettleston Harriers in 1961.   In second place were Motherwell, 80 sec behind, and third were Victoria Park, their best performance since 1959.  

How easy it would be to say that Motherwell, the holders since 1962, were beaten because they were weak in two of the stages.   Certainly on the third and fifth legs they allowed the reins to slide disastrously through their fingers such was the lethargic response from their two men.   But the truth is that the students were solid in every department along the course, with perhaps the exception of W Allan on the third leg.  So superior were they that on six of the eight legs they had better times than Motherwell’s runners, a fact that gives a more realistic reason for the Lanarkshire team’s demise.  

Two athletes were outstanding.   AF Murray (Edinburray (Edinburgh University) and Andrew Brown (Motherwell).  The former, given a lead of 80 yards over WH Barrow (Victoria Park) and one of about 180 yards over I McCafferty (Motherwell)   on the sixth stage from Forestfield to the Airdrie War Memorial (seven miles) wound himself up and pounded over the distance at an average speed of 13.4 miles per hour.   That killed off any vestige of a challenge from the two others and Murray gained another 38 seconds for his club over Motherwell.   At a mile an hour slower, Andrew Brown had given chase earlier – on the fourth leg – to an out-of-sight A Smith (Victoria Park) who had been given a good lead on the field by P Maclagan.   Inexorably Brown gave himself a clearer view of of his quarry and at 1:05 pm, going through Bathgate – halfway to Glasgow – he put Motherwell in the lead.   That had been indeed an excellent recovery by Brown.

Edinburgh University went into the lead on the next stage when F Gamwell caught up with and overtook W Marshall.    Gamwell appeared to be suffering from a stitch about half a mile from the end of his stint but he still managed to give Murray a handsome send off.   “

A good account but maybe a bit harsh on Allan (after all he was third fastest on the stage), Poulton (fourth fastest on the third stage for Motherwell) and Willie Marshall (fifth fastest on the fifth stage for Motherwell.   Given that the Hare & Hounds broke the old record by over 7 minutes and Motherwell were more than five minutes inside that record, no one in either club could have been pulling less than their weight.   However, it was a top class run however you look at it and a first for any University team.

But Edinburgh University was not yet done with the E-G.   They won again in 1966.   This time the reporter is Colin Shields in his fine book, “Whatever the Weather”:

“They achieved their second win with another fine display of consistent team running in a time of 3hrs 36min 53sec – just 21 seconds outside their own record.   They produced four of the eight fastest stage times with three of the runs being in record time.   Alistair Blamire equalled his own first stage record; Ian Hathorn set a new record  of 21 min 05 sec on the hilly third stage; Jim Wight was fastest on the seventh stage with his run of 28 min 10 sec and Chris Elson took nine seconds from the final stage record with his run of 28 min 21 sec to bring Edinburgh home to a clear victory.   They finished almost three quarters of a mile ahead of Victoria Park with Motherwell YMCA finishing third, just four seconds ahead of Aberdeen AAC.”.  

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There’s an old saying that everything goes in threes.   There is usually nothing to it of course, but in the case of Edinburgh University H&H and the Edinburgh to Glasgow it rang true.   They won it again in 1967.   Ian Hathorn was eighth on the first stage and the team worked its way through the field so that at the start of the fifth stage they were in first position and they never went back at any point.   8th to 5th to 4th to first!   Remarkable.   The ‘Glasgow Herald’ made it sound a bit harder than that though.

“Edinburgh University, hustled out of their stride by more than one club during the early part of the Edinburgh to Glasgow, finally came through with less assurance – and a smaller margin of victory – than when they won last year and in 1965.   I suppose if it all works out right in the end, then a club’s decision on where to run  their men is justified.   But I would have thought that the students might have put  Blamire, last year’s record breaker on the five and a half miles of the first leg, on it again.   Instead Hathorn, who set a record on the four mile stage last year, did little towards lifting his team’s morale by coming in eighth in the initial leg more than a minute and a half behind the leader.   

Blamire on the second leg wasted no time in overtaking Greenock Glenpark’s man and the representative of the race’s only non-Scottish club, the 9th Old Boys from Belfast.   Passing the showground at Ingliston the Edinburgh runner padded along for a mile with Johnston (Victoria Park) and then shot clear of him.   Blamire caught no one else after that , an indication of the gap that had developed before he received the baton.

The University moved into third place in the third leg and over the next stage Logue finally put the holders in their accustomed position by covering the five and three quarter miles in exactly half an hour.   Young, Bryan-Jones, Jim Wight  and Elson finished the job for an aggregate time of 3 hrs 44 min 30 sec, about eight minutes outside the record set by them two years ago.”

Everybody wants to pick the team, whatever the sport, and it’s especially simple after the event.   There is no weak link in a team that wins the race.   If one of your top men – and a guy who set a stage record has to be in that category – is a bit off form, then there is a very good case for setting him off first and then the others at least know the task ahead of them and can work accordingly.   It is also possible of course that a runner who is in very good nick has a bad day for reasons that later become apparent – for instance one year the first runner for a team expected to be among the challengers ran really badly – he had contracted an allergy to some food that he had consumed the previous night and the result was unforeseeable.   The team won, so the selectors and runners had done their job.

The team that finished third in 1969 was a very good one indeed – in running order with their place in brackets it was Jim Dingwall (3), Andy McKean (4), Dave Taylor (5), Dave Logue (3), D Glover (3), Alistair Blamire (3), J McFie (3) and R Hendry (3).   They were beaten by Edinburgh Southern (with at least two former EU runners in their ranks) and Shettleston with Lachie Stewart, Norman Morrion and Dick Wedlock among those carrying the baton.

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The standard of competition in the E-G was such that it took a very strong team of eight men running at or near their best to get in among the gold, silver and bronze rewards.   The incentive to get a place in the race was great and clubs strove mightily just to be invited to compete.   However, there was another ‘prize’ there for clubs who would not win any of the precious metals: the award for the most meritorious performance by an unplaced team.   That’s what it was for: I quote: “An extra set of bronze medals will be awarded to the unplaced team who gave the most meritorious performance.”   At various times these medals have been described as for the most improved team – not so.   The judges responsible for deciding on the ‘most meritorious performance’ were listed in the programme for the race.   Sometimes it did indeed go to the most improved team (however that was decided (was 19th to 10th better than 11th to 5th for instance?) but at other times it went to a team which in its very first appearance in the race  finished fairly high up, at other times it seemed to go for consistency (eg a team that had finished say 5th, 6th and 5th in successive years).   Whatever, it was much sought after.   Three University teams won this medal:

in 1962 St Andrews won it after finishing eleventh – they had been nineteenth the previous year; in 1964 Aberdeen University won it in their very first year in the race; and in 1967 Strathclyde University won it after finishing twelfth, having been twentieth the last time around.   These teams all had very good runners in them – the St Andrews squad included Donald Macgregor on the second stage, the Aberdeen crew had Bill Ewing on the second stage and the Strathclyde team had John Myatt occupying that position.   And that’s the sum total of medals won by university teams in the race.   None after 1969 but that’s not the only measure of success: great athletes like Frank Clement, Lawrie Spence and John Myatt turned out for their team regardless of the fact that the team did not have any chance of medals and so gave other students the opportunity of taking part – and incidentally gave club runners an opportunity to race against the stars over a different distance.   The same is true, of course for the others – Bill Ewing for Aberdeen and Don Macgregor for St Andrews and so on.

It was a wonderful, high quality event and the whole standard of Scottish cross-country and road running dropped when it was abandoned.   The University teams all added to the atmosphere and standard of the race and it is interesting that Glasgow and Edinburgh ‘old boys’ in the form of Westerlands and Hunters Bog Trotters also competed in the race – sometimes alongside the university teams.

The Atalanta Club

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Hugh C Maingay, one of the founders of the Atalanta Club

The Achilles Club was founded in 1920 for past and present members of Cambridge University Athletic Club and Oxford University Athletics Club and is a registered track & field club in its own right.  The club’s website tells us that the club supports OUAC and CUAC financially and organises a programme of fixtures, overseas trips and domestic and international social gatherings.    It is exclusive to the two universities although other universities have formed similar groupings – not as successful and very few, if any, as long lasting.    In Scotland the equivalent was the Atalanta club.   Atalanta was a character in Greek mythology who, having taken an oath of virginity to the goddess Artemis and only agreed to her father’s desire that she marry, on condition that the suitor must beat her in a foot race with the forfeit being death.   Many a suitor perished in the attempt.   Colin Youngson comments on the Achilles/Atalanta links:

“Since 1949, the Achilles Club has awarded annually two gold medals, for the best performance by a club member on either Track or Field. Recipients of the Track award include Roger Bannister, Chris Chataway, Chris Brasher, David Hemery and Richard Nerurkar. The only Scottish athlete to obtain this prestigious medal was Alastair Wood (Oxford University and later Aberdeen AAC), who won twice: in 1962 [when he was a close second( to that year’s European and Empire champion Brian Kilby) in the AAA Marathon; and a splendid fourth in the European Marathon]; and in 1966 [when he is reported to have run 2.16.06, and also set a new European record of 2.13.45 in the Forres marathon. For some obscure reason, the latter time has never been accepted by the SAAA, but was ratified by the AAA in 1967, and is now recognised by the Association of Road Running Statisticians (www.arrs.net) as the fastest time of the year in 1966]. Alastair was also narrowly pushed into second by Jim Alder in the AAA championships in 1967, with 2.16.21”.

Several people have contributed information about the club – which has been sadly undocumented – notably Hugh Barrow, Hugh Stevenson, Sandy Sutherland, Colin Young and Colin Youngson.   Very few of the present generation have heard of it but it was an important club in its day.   Colin Young has this to say.   “My father who was at Glasgow between 1923 and 1926 was a member of Atlanta which in those days covered the 4 older Scottish universities  ( in age order :- St Andrews, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Edinburgh). It seems to have been formed  to act as a countervailing force to Achilles  ( Oxford & Cambridge) . It was describe as “the club beyond a blue” but all you had to be was be an active athlete to join – I only had a half blue (called a green at Edinburgh!)   My dad was very proud of the fact that his name and mine appeared one after the other in the life members list. I think Robin Murdoch and his son appeared in the same way too.”

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Hugh Maingay leads 880y group in World Student Games, 1928

One of the founders of the Atalanta Club was Hugh C Maingay, above, a student at Edinburgh University in the 1920’s.    It was a deliberate follow-on to the Achilles club and covered the four ancient Scottish Universities of Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and St Andrews.   The first fixture was on 31st July, 1926 at Hampden against Achilles.   It was a day of fine weather and the crowd was estimated at 5000.   It was a bit ambitious – Achilles turned out several Olympians such as Lord Burghley and Douglas Lowe and the Scottish Universities were defeated 25 points to 8.   The report in the ‘Glasgow Herald’ read:

LAUNCH OF THE ATALANTA

The Atalanta, the new athletic club of the combined Scottish universities, received its public baptism at Hampden Park on Saturday afternoon under auspicious circumstances, as not only did the late Lord Rector of of Glasgow travel specially from London  to be present, but the Achilles Club paid the newcomers the high compliment of turning out practically the strongest side at their command in the match which had been arranged to celebrate the occasion.   That the home representatives did not win one of the twelve events staged was disappointing, as they were expected to take at least two, the weight and the high jump, but Dr Spark, who would have won the first, did not arrive owing to train delays until after the event was decided, while J Crawford Kerr, the Scottish high jump champion, had to leave to join his ship on the morning of the meeting.    Although being so signally defeated, the Scottish students can take heart from the performances given by RB Hoole, RA Robb, DF Murnell, AD Macdonald and Hugh C Maingay.   In opposing DAG Lowe in the half-mile, the last-named had a thankless task, but he ran better than he has ever done and covered the distance in a yard worse than two minutes.    Macdonald’s running in the hurdles was excellent.   He chased Lord Burghley all the way and was only a yard away at the tape.   The South African is improving with every public appearance  and his performance on Saturday was better even than it looked, as the turf seemed to be much slower than when he ran against Gaby in the international.   

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Hugh Stevenson’s Atalanta Vest

Good competition, good performances, but never a win.   Atalanta had, however, shown that they were a good team and further fixtures were organised.   The following year on 27th June 1927, the first of a series of meetings against the Irish Universities was held in Dublin.   There had been many links between Scottish and Irish Universities and between the SAAA and the Irish Association too. There had been cross-country races between Dublin University Harriers and Edinburgh University Hares & Hounds in alternate years between 1897 and 1906 with the home team always being victorious and there had also been competitions with Glasgow University and Aberdeen University. 

Colin Young’s Dad was one of the founder members of the Atalanta Club and Colin still has some of his father’s Atalanta apparel: for instance the scarf below was an official production that members were proud to wear away from the track.    

  Then of course there were the annual Scotland v Ireland internationals between 1895 and 1913.   So there was a kind of inevitability about the Atalanta v Irish University fixtures.   The report read

“The inaugural athletics match between Irish Universities and the Atalanta club, the combined Scottish Universities Select team from Edinburgh, Glasgow, St Andrews and Aberdeen, took place on the sports grounds of University College Dublin in Terenure.   The Irish Universities team was selected by the Irish Inter-University Committee which organised and ran the Intervarsity Championships.   This new  international event in the athletic life of both countries was mooted as a fixture that would strengthen the ties between Ireland and Scotland.   The Scottish team included RD Allison, the Scottish Universities 100 and 220y champion, and ex-440y champion AF Clark, Scottish 120y hurdles champion RB Hoole, the Scottish 440y champion and Dr AP Spark in shot putt and discus who was a member of the British Olympic team in Paris in 1924.   Based on Irish, British and world records, the Irish Times had commented a day before this contest on the backward condition of athletics in Ireland in that there were few men capable of holding their own with the front rankers of other countries.   The newspaper welcomed the inauguration of the international inter-universities contest as “an important and marked advance in the development of athletics in Ireland.”   In its report on the contest the Irish Times further commented “Athletics and various other branches of sport have always received a considerable amount of attention in our universities and colleges, which have given to sport athletes whose feats of skill, courage and endurance have reflected credit on their institutions … The successful launching of the international inter-universities contest should act as a great stimulus to all who have the welfare of athletics in Ireland at heart … Thus we have in this inter-universities contest a strong incentive for our ‘Varsity athletes to redouble their efforts on the training ground.    And who can at the moment doubt that out of this modest beginning may emerge a regular international University contest.”   The outstanding performance of the Irish Universities team was that of Sean Lavan in winning the 220y and 440y, placing 2nd in the discus, and anchoring the one-mile relay team to victory.   The Irish and Scottish teams were entertained to supper.   While the contest was scored on number of wins across 11 disciplines, had the contest been scored 2 for a win and 1 for runner-up as in the contest in 1929, Ireland would still have won by 29 pts to 15 pts”

The official Irish account of the meetings is contained in a lengthy and detailed pdf document by Cyril J Smith.

Two weeks later there was another match for Atalanta – this time against the English Universities other than Oxford and Cambridge.   The comments in ‘The Glasgow Herald’ read as follows: “During their short life the Atalanta club have shown considerable enterprise.   A year ago they introduced the famous Achilles club to the Glasgow public, their first ambitious effort as a club, and this season, having found their wings, they fixed up a programme which comprised three fixtures.   The first against the Irish Universities, took place at Dublin; the second at Ibrox Park on Saturday afternoon, when a team from the IUAB, as the combined strength of the Universities of England and Wales, outside Oxford and Cambridge is termed; while the third, with the Achilles club, will take place in August.   All this pioneer work is bound to have its effect on University athletics in Scotland, as there is nothing which tends to improve     the standard more than matches in which the contestants compete on a level footing.”

In the match itself, the visitors won by 25 points to 20 and the stand-out performer was unfortunately not a Scot but a London University sprinter – Jack London from British Guiana who won both sprints.   There were several good performances by members of the Atalanta Club but one of the best was by WR Seagrove in the half mile – he won in 2:01.6 by six yards.   He also ran in the one mile medley relay which Atalanta also won in 3:37.8.   Seagrove had been a competitor in the 1920 and 1924 Olympics in the 3000m team race and won a silver medal in each.

University of Edinburgh

On 29th June 1929, Atalanta met the Combined English and Welsh Universities at Manchester  –   for the first time since its formation, Atalanta won!   The  meeting was reported in the ‘Glasgow Herald’:

” ATHLETICS.

  First Win for the Atalanta Club.  

…  Ian Borland, third to Crawford in the Scottish Championships, was also returned as doing even time at the Atalanta match.   ….

For the first time since the inception of the club, an Atalanta team proved successful in a match against a sister combination and their victory at Manchester over the Combined English Universities was the result both of meritorious performances and excellent team work.   It should hearten them for their contest with Irish Universities at Hampden Park on Wednesday evening.   In addition to his win in the 100 yards, in which he had the assistance of a slight following wind, Ian Borland ran a good quarter to win in 51 1-5th sec, one second better than his championship time at Hampden and Alister Clark must also have hurdled better for he recorded 15 3-10th sec against 15 3-5th sec a week ago.   RL Howland appears to find the southern air more congenial than ours is, for he cleared 44′ 7″ in the shot putt, over three feet better than in the championships, and only three inches short of his best public performance.   HC Maingay did not run as freely as usual but was consistent in that he again was under 2 min for the half-mile.   …..  “

The club was doing well but it was not yet finished its programme for 1929.

The second Irish match was held in  Scotland on 3rd July 1929 at Hampden, at that time the biggest terraced stadium in the world with a capacity of 130,000, which was extended to 150,000 by 1937 and only exceeded in 1950 by the Maracana in Brazil.   I quote: For several of the Irish athletes this was their first experience of running on a cinder track.   For Irish Universities, Dr Pat O’Callaghan (UCC), Irish Olympic gold medallist in the hammer at Amsterdam in 1928 and Los Angeles in 1932, won the hammer, shot and discus, and Michael Moroney (UCD) took the long jump and high jump for an Irish clean sweep of the field events.   The ‘Flying Scotsman’, HC Maingay (Edinburgh) ran away with the half mile in 1:58.6and his compatriot Ian H Boland (Glasgow) the 220 yards.   Joe Eustace (Dublin University), who had won the 100y in 1927, made it an event double in 1929.   Atalanta took first and second in the 880y and the Irish Universities took first and second in the high jump and long jump.   While the result of the contest was never in doubt by the time of the last discipline on the 12 event programme, the meeting closed with an epic battle in the mile relay with Patrick C Moore (Irish Universities) and Ian H Borland (Atalanta) on the final leg fighting stride for stride down the home straight all the way to the tape, Moore winning by inches.   For the record, the Irish Universities won by 23 points to 13.”

Of course there were competitions against other Scottish schools and colleges and one such was that against Hillhead HS at Hughenden on Thursday 19th May in ‘a match on team and relay lines.’   The club team was described as a formidable one and included R Murdoch, M Morison, NM Glen, NA Selkirk, GP Richardson, RJW Barlow, JB Barr, GB Esslemont, AM Lapsley, JC Taylor, FR Ogilvie, AW McCosh, W Wright, AS Kitchin and DM Brander.   Thre were eight events on the programme including an 880 yards team race (3 to run and 3 to count) and a one mile team race (3 to run and 3 to count).  On the day, Hillhead defeated Atalanta by six events to two.   Atalanta won only the mile team race and the shot putt.    Complete results are in the Glasgow Herald of 20th May, 1932.   The club was doing very well with members being prominent in invitation events at various open meetings around the country and entering championships under the club’s name – eg in the SAAA Championships of 1932 FP Reid won the 100 yards and 220 yards and JGD Parsons won the sprint hurdles wearing the club colours.   Reid actually won the AAA’s championships wearing the Atalanta vest.   The one who won most Scottish championships was Alister Clark who won the 120 yards hurdles in 1933, one year after JGD Parsons had won the same event.   Clark had previously won the event in 1923 (Glasgow University), 1924, 1925, 1927 and 1929 (Edinburgh University).   The event was possibly their strongest at the time and RG Muir was third in 1932.

In April 1933 they were back at Dollar again where the schoolboys won by 6 events to tw0 after the appropriate allowances were made – eg 100 yards in the mile, one foot in the high jump, five feet in the long jump.   Two weeks later, 29th April, they defeated St Andrews University soundly by 38 points to 16.

On May 3rd, at Westerlands in Glasgow, they took on a combined Edinburgh University and Former Pupils Union team and the result was a tie with each team scoring four and a half points.   Their best result of summer 1933 was probably the victory over the Catterick Garrison AA on 29th July by 18 to 16 1/2 points.

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Other than for the Irish matches, the team did not travel outside Scotland too often – maybe for good reason!   On 24th May in 1930, an Atalanta team travelled to Perry Barr in Birmingham and took on the Achilles club and the Universities Athletic Union with the result that they were third – Achilles had 47 points, the UAU 24 pts and Atalanta 6 pts.   The biggest defeat ever but looking at what there was of the team, all of the big names were missing.

“The 1933 visit of Atalanta fell foul of the brewing political situation between the N.A.C.A.I., the N.I.A.A.A. and the B.A.A.B. that was to bedevil Irish and Irish Intervarsity Athletics in the 1930’s and led eventually to the removal of the N.A.C.A.I. from the I.A.A.F. as the recognised national body for athletics, the formation of a new governing body in Irish athletics (The Amateur Athletic Union of Eire), and a split in Irish athletics that would last until the formation of Bord Lúthchleas na hÉireann in 1967. The Atalanta v Irish Universities match was to have taken place in College Park, Dublin on 10 July.15,16 At the twelfth hour a telegram was received from the Atalanta Club stating that their visit to Dublin had been cancelled.17,18 No specific reason was given. However, it 3 was surmised that the Scottish team had been ordered to cancel their visit on instructions issued by or on behalf of the International Board, composed of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland, as a consequence of the dispute between the N.A.C.A.I. and the Northern Ireland Association, and possibly also in retaliation for the ban on intervarsity competition imposed on Queen’s University of Belfast by the N.A.C.A.I.19 The Central Council of the N.A.C.A.I. at its meeting on Saturday 17th June, 1933 passed the following resolution to clarify its position vis à vis intervarsity athletics: “That Queen’s University, or any Athletic Club attached thereto, be not allowed to take part in any competition, tournament or match under the auspices of the N.A. and C.A. so long as they remain affiliated to an illegal body [N.I.A.A.A.], and that all Universities and University Colleges be notified of this intention. Further that no University or Athletic Club attached to a University in Ireland be allowed to compete against Queen’s University so long as they remain affiliated to an illegal body.”

University of St Andrews

University of St Andrews

Atalanta started the 1934 season with a match against Aberdeen University which they won by eight events to two – the two lost being the pole vault and long jump.   JA Clarke won the 100 and 220 yards but he was the only double winner other than Ogilvie of Aberdeen.

They also had lower level competitions against schools such as Glenalmond and allowances were made for the age and experience of the athletes.   For instance there was a meeting with Heriots School athletic club on 14th June 1934 when Atalanta fielded Hamish .   WH Whalley, East, 2:01.0;   Two Miles:   A Carfrae, East, 9:55.6;   120y H: EFO Martin, Atalanta, 16.6;   HJ:   RKI Kennedy, Atalanta, 5′ 7″;   LJ:  RNM Robertson, Atalanta, 21′ 1″;  Shot:  T Montgomery, East, 34’7″;  Javelin:  T Montgomery, East,  143’7 1/2″; Relay: (4 x 220 yards) Atalanta 1:34.2 (won by half a yard).

In 1935 there was a match against Aberdeen University held, of course, at Aberdeen on 4th May which Atalanta won by 61 to 43, winning every track race including the relay.

There was another against Dollar on 25th April, 1936, and reported under the headline “Dollar schoolboys do well against Atalanta”.  This one indicates the exact allowances made for the difference in ages and experience.  It read:

“Fine handicapping by Mr Wm Wright contributed greatly to the success of Atalanta’s visit to Dollar on Saturday.   Atalanta won three events, the Academy schoolboys two and one was a tie.   JA Brown exceeded the present school record with a putt of 36 feet, and it is hoped that he will repeat his feat at the school sports next Saturday.   The Atalanta ‘heavies’ demonstrated the javelin, discus and hammer during the afternoon.   Results:

4 x 110 yards relay (Atalanta running four yards wide): Won by Atalanta.   4 yards.   Time 49 4-5th sec

Three-quarter mile relay (Atalanta running 4 yards wide):   Won by Atalanta.   8 yards.   Time 2 min 48 3-5th sec

High Jump (Dollar allowed 6 inches): 1.   Dollar (DV Beattie   5′ 2 1/2″, J Harvey 4′ 9 1/2″) 10′ 6 1/2″;    2.   Atalanta  (HM Murray 5′ 6 1/4″, AF McDonald 5′)  10′  6 1/4″

Long Jump (Dollar allowed 3′ 6″):   1.  Atalanta (HNM Robertson 19′ 8 1/4″, JM McKechnie  19′ 2″) 38′ 10 1/2″;   2.   Dollar (HA Duff (19’3 1/2″, JA Brown 15′ 9 3/4″) 38′ 7 1/4″)

One Mile (Atalanta conceded 120 yards):   A tie – 1.  GA Smith (Atalanta);  2.  R Hall (Dollar); 3. J Kerr (Dollar).   Smith led by 20 yards.   Time:  4 min 48 3-5th sec.

Putting the Shot  (Dollar allowed 6′):   1.   Dollar (JA Brown  36′  (breaking school record), K Montgomery 30′ 10 1/4″) 72′ 10 1/4″;   2.   Atalanta (W Forrester 37′ 3 1/2″, J McKechnie  35′ 4 1/2″) 72′ 8 1/4″

Sure enough, Dollar had their school sports the following week and Brown putt the shot 35′ 10 1/2″ for a ne school record, but Atalanta was taking on, and beating, St Andrews University.   The report explained the points awarded as three, two and one for first, second and third, that there were thirteen events, and the winning score was 48 points to 26.   It also said that JC Stothard who had been named for the Olympic Games was unable to travel and compete for Atalanta.    Several competitors from the Dollar match were able to turn out with the bonus of the presence of Ian Lapraik who won the half-mile.

Another week (May 9th) and they were getting the better of Aberdeen University – 61 1/2 points to 38 1/2 – with Morris Carstairs in the team this time.   The only event which Aberdeen won was the 100 yards.

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Hamish Stothard, yellow cross, competing for Atalanta against Glenalmond on 9th June 1933

They met Dollar again on 24th April 1937 where, despite winning four events against two for the schoolboys, they tied on points with the Academy.   The handicapping was interesting and possibly crucial to the final result – eg in the hurdles the pupils had 9 hurdles to cross compared with 10 for the students; in the Mile the school’s representatives had a 200m start; in the shot putt they had an allowance of 3 feet and in the high jump theey had 6 inches; and in the relay they ran 4 yards wide.   The final score was 16 points each.   The regular meeting on the first Saturday in May against St Andrews – in 1936 it was on 2nd May   and in 1937 it was on 1st May, and there were weekday meetings against the SAAA (West District) – in ’36 on 1st June (West District won by 54 to 32 and the race of the night was when Jim Flockhart beat Emmet Farrell in the two miles)  and in ’37 it was again on 1st June which was a Monday.   There were also contests against other Universities – Glasgow was involved as  was Aberdeen (8th May in 1937).   The big meetings however were the internationals against Ireland.

“A further match between Scottish Universities and Irish Universities did not become possible until the rustication of the N.A.C.A.I. from the I.A.A.F. and the formation of the A.A.U.E. The Irish Universities team for the 3rd meeting with the Atalanta Club was confined to athletes from Trinity College Dublin and Queen’s University.  The three colleges of the N.U.I. were excluded because they remained members of the N.A.C.A.I. Almost all of the Atalanta athletes were drawn from Glasgow University and Edinburgh University. The match took place on 6th July, 1938 at Westerlands, Glasgow University’s sports grounds, on a cinder track. Irish Universities won the five field events, three of them with 1st/2nd combinations. The individual track events were split with three wins each, although Atalanta won the 440y by default when Norman De Vere (TCD) was disqualified, after winning the race by a yard, for fouling his lane while coming up the back straight. De Vere made good his mistake by winning the 880y and by setting up an early lead in the medley relay [440y, 220y, 220y 440y] for an Irish win. Irish Universities took the 100y and 880y with 1st/2nd places. No records were set and no athlete achieved a win double. The scoring on this occasion was 1 = 3 pts, 2nd = 2 pts and 3rd = 1 pt, with 3 pts and 1 pt for 1st and 2nd in the medley relay, respectively. Irish Universities, with nine wins in the twelve events, won the match comfortably by 47 pts to 23 pts.”

1939 was a year remembered for the outbreak of war but up to that point, athletics continued as usual.   On Tuesday, 30th May, Atalanta took on the SAAA (West District) at Westerlands and suffered a big defeat – 44 points to 28 – and the star of the show was Bobby Graham of the SAAA who beat J Muir (Atalanta) by 40 yards in the record time of 4:20.6 in the Mile.   The club won the 120 yards hurdles (R Murdoch), the half-mile (JAM Robertson), Broad Jump (R Dickie) High Jump (W Murray), Pole Vault (A Gibson) and Discus (J Schneiderman).

The fourth meeting between Irish Universities, represented by Trinity and Queen’s, and  Atalanta took place in the College Park, Trinity College, Dublin in 1st July 1939.   There were seven track events including a two miles, but no relay, and five field events.   This was the same day as the AAA’s championships at the White City but that did not affect the Scots who were again defeated, this time by 38 points to 33.    There were nevertheless some good quality athletes out for the Scots – GM Carstairs won the two miles and was second in the half-mile, which was won by JAM Robertson who also won the quarter mile.   Ian Lapraik was second in the two miles.   Complete results:

100 yards:   1.  GW Craigie (Irish Universities); 2.   DH Sutherland (Atalanta).   won by one foot.   10.2.    220 yards:  1. GW Craigie (IU);   2.  JM Barber (IU).  Won by four yards.  22.6

440 yards:  1    JAM Sandilands (A);  2.  HM Kirk (IU).   won by three yards.  51.2.   880 yards:   1.  JAM Sandilands (A);  2.  GM Carstairs (A)  won by two yards 2:03.2.

Mile:   1.  DH McNeill (IU);  2.  J Muir (A).   won by inches.   4:29.2.   Two Miles:   1.  GM Carstairs (A);  2.  I Lapraik (A)  won easily.  9:54

120y hurdles:   1.  EM Coote (IU);  2.   P Anderson (IU).   won by three yards.   15.4    (RG Eccles (Atalanta) disqualified for knocking down more than three hurdles.)

High Jump:  1.  RG Eccles (A) 5’10.5″;   2.  W Murray (A)  5’9.75″      Broad Jump:   1.  WT McClintock (IU) 22′ 3″;   2.  R Dickie (A) 21′ 7.5″

Javelin:  1.  W Baillie (IU) 154’10”;  2.  G Gregg (IU)  154′.     Shot:  1.  LH Horan (IU)  46′ 10″;   2.  JGH Cameron (A) 42′ 0.5″

Discus:  1.  LH Horan (IU)   123′ 0″;   2.   IAM McLennan (A) 117′ 10″

It was a close run thing with the Scots having first and second in half mile, two miles and high jump, plus a victory in the 440 yards with the mile only being won by inches.   There is a short video clip of this meeting at

www.britishpathe.com/video/universities-sports-in-dublin

This was the last in the series before the War, the next would be on 12th July 1969.

The progress of the Atalanta Club had been remarkable.   Founded in 1925, it had quickly gained an honourable position in Scottish athletics and had included in its ranks many top class athletes including Scottish and British international athletes, World Student Games competitors, AAA and SAAA champions, and at least two Olympians in JC Stothard and WR Seagrove.

University of Glasgow

University of Glasgow

The club was clearly active after the ’39-’45 War with John Hart, who had won the 120 yards hurdles in the green of Edinburgh University in 1946, ’47, ’48, ’49 and ’50 going on to win the titles in 1951 and ’52 as ‘RAF and Atalanta’.   The club had started up again and there was a Scottish record for the half-mile set at Pitreavie on 30th June 1955 in the  SAAA v Atalanta at Pitreavie.   The half mile record was set by Donald Gorrie running for the SAAA.  As for the actual contest, Atalanta won by 54 to 46.   Their victories came from JRG Robertson (100y  10.4, 220y 22.9), JB Paterson (440y 49.6), W Hunter Watson (Two Miles 9:22.8), CAR Dennis (120y hurdles  15.6, 440y hurdles 56.3), RM Stephen (Long Jump 20′ 10″, Hop, step and jump  44′ 08″) DWR MacKenzie (Javelin  195′) and the relay.   The club had its own vest – white with blue and gold bands.

There doesn’t seem to be a regular programme of meetings as there was pre-war but what there were seem to have been  high profile matches.

For instance, on 15th April 1961 at Westerlands it was like old times with Achilles v Atalanta.   This match was arranged for the opening of the new 440 yards track at Westerlands.    It was a big occasion – the track had cost £8000 and all the dignitaries were there – the Principal, Sir Hector Hetherington, who welcomed the track and the opportunities that it created and added said that more ground was needed at Gilmorehill – 30 or 40 acres of it!   Douglas Weatherhead, President of the Sports Club replied to the speech and the Principal was presented with a putter by by Miss Ann Miller, the Club’s vice-president.   Norris McWhirter said that were more seating to be provided there was no reason why international fixtures could not be held at Westerlands.   …. all this and the spectators had portable radios to keep in touch with the score at Wembley!    The meeting was sponsored by the ‘Glasgow Herald’ which reported as follows:

“GROUND RECORDS AT WESTERLANDS: Achilles defeat Atalanta.   Seven track and field ground records were broken at Westerlands on Saturday in a meeting sponsored by The Glasgow Herald, which followed the official opening of Glasgow University’s new blaes running track by the principal, Sir Hector Hetherington.   The meeting consisted of a 16 event match between Atalanta and Achilles, which the latter won by 55 points to 47, a five event women’s contest which the Scottish Women’s Athletic Association beat a Scottish Universities team by 29 – 6, and two invitation events.”  

The invitation events were a 100 yards race in which MG Hildrey won in 10.2 seconds from G Cmela (London AC) and A Meakin (Thames Valley), and a mile which Graham Everett won from T Ceiger (Achilles)  and S Taylor (Manchester AC) in 4:12.8.   The records were set in the shot by D Harrison (Achilles) with 52’9″, JM Parker (Achilles) in the 120 yards hurdles with 14.9 seconds, MC Robinson (Achilles) in the 440 yards hurdles with 55.4 seconds, D Stevenson (Achilles) and JR McManus (Atalanta) both cleared 12′ 5.75″ in the pole vault, CJ Bacon of Achilles threw the javelin 203′ 11″, Graham Everett in the Invitation Mile and the SWAAA Women’s 4 x 110 yards relay team.   The best race of the afternoon was however one not yet mentioned – the Three Miles match race between Alastair Wood and DM Turner in which they ran together until the back straight of the last lap when Wood  moved clear to win by 50 yards in 14 min 16.6 sec.  Another familiar name on the programme was Adrian Metcalfe (Achilles) who  won the 100 yards in 10.6 seconds from A Millar of Atalanta.

What was to become an annual match between Atalanta and the SAAA was held on 8th July, 1961, at Pitreavie where the SAAA won by 76 to 43 points.    It was a good afternoon’s competition with the star of the show being Mike Hildrey who won thee events – the report in the ‘Glasgow Herald read: “Against a strong wind, Hildrey won the match 100 yards in 10.5 sec, narrowly beating his clubmate RW Whitelock.   In the invitation event, run when there was less wind, he was a more comfortable winner, beating Whitelock by two yards in 10 sec, and his victory in the invitation 220 was even more pronounced with J Bender (Germany) three and a half yards behind.   The SAAA relay team of three VPAAC members and GA MacLachlan (St Modan’s) beat the record held by Victoria Park by 0.1 sec in 42.5 sec.   Another fine performance was achieved by Lt D Earle (United States) who cleared 14′ in the Pole Vault.   His chances of a British title are bright for no other athlete has vaulted as high this season.   R McKay (Motherwell) and KD Ballantyne (ESH) covered the last 20 yards of the mile almost together and finished in the same time, 4 min 17.3 sec, though McKay was judged to have won.   AF Perkins (Ilford) set the pace in the Three Miles with AJ Wood (Aberdeen) waiting for his chance – unusual tactics for the Scot.   Wood moved up at the start of the final straight, but Perkins also finished strongly and Wood was awarded the verdict only on the vote of a majority of the judges.   GE Everett (Shettleston) had no problems in the mile, despite the presence of the four Englishmen, for he easily left them mover the final 200 yards and won in 4 min 11.8 sec.”

The complete results were : –

100y:  1.  M Hildrey (SAAA);   2.  R Whitelock (SAAA);  3.   A Miller (A)   10.5

220y:  1.  A Ballantyne (SAAA);   2.  WM Campbell (A);   3.  A Miller.   23.3

440y:   1.  WM Campbell;   2.  A Robb (SAAA);   3.  FW Dick (A)   50.8

880y:   1.  RG Clarke (A);   2.  GB Brownlie (SAAA);   3.  J Turnbull (SAAA)  1:57.3

Mile:   1.  R McKay (SAAA);   2.   K Ballantyne (SAAA);   3.  WH Watson (A)   4:17.3

Three Miles:   1.  AJ Wood (A);   2.  A Perkins (Ilford AC);   3.  B Harbach (Tipton AC)  14:21

120y hurdles:   1.  A Belleh (SAAA);   2.  AG McLachlan (SAAA);   3.  KR Gilham (A)   15 sec

440y hurdles:   1.  RR Mills (A);   2.  B Birrell (SAAA);   3.  KR Gilham (A)   57.5 sec

High Jump:   1.   DS Cairns (SAAA);   2.   D Chadderton (SAAA);   3.  A Lawson (A)   6′ 2″

Long Jump:  1.  JC Lundie (SAAA);   2.   C Smith (A);   3.  DR McKechnie (SAAA)   21′ 10″

Hop,Step and Jump:   1.  DR McKechnie;   2.  HM Murray (A);   3.  IG Grant (SAAA)  44′ 3.5″

Pole Vault:   1.  DL Earle (SAAA);   2.  NJ Brown (SAAA);   3.  HM Mabon (A)   14′

Shot Putt:   1.  LM Bryce (SAAA);   2.   HM Mabon;   3.  JL: Crosbie (SAAA)   44′ 2.75″

Hammer:  1.  AR Valentine (SAAA);   2.  N McDonald (A);   3.  FJL Kelly (SAAA)   170′ 6.5″

Discus:   1.  HM Mabon;   2.  WA Simpson (A);  3.  CF Riach (SAAA)   130′ 9.5″

Javelin:   1.  CF Riach;   2.  CR Keith (A);   3.  GA McLachlan (SAAA)   186′ 9.5″

Relay:  SAAA (Ballantyne, Maclachlan, Hildrey, Whitelock)  42.5 sec.

There were invitation races at 100y, 220y and the Mile.

That this meeting between the two sides was gaining in importance was indicated not only by the calibre of athlete selected, but also by the quality of the runners from outwith Scotland in the invitation events and running as guests.   Alf Perkins has been mentioned, as has Bender of Germany, but among Everett’s opponents were Mike Blagrove of Ealing, a four minute miler and A Rogers of Surrey AC.   The quality of the domestic races was indicated by Ming Campbell’s second place in the 220 (he also won the 440 [where Frank Dick was third] and ran in the relay), Hunter Watson’s third place in the Mile as well as all the top Scottish field eventers on display.

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One year later, on 4th Jul 1962, at Pitreavie, the SAAA (62 points) defeated  Atalanta (57) by only five points in a meeting where on Scottish record was broken and another equalled.   “In the 120 yards hurdles GA Maclachlan (St Modan’s) broke the Scottish record of 15.3 sec by 0.1 sec.   The winner, A Belleh, whose time was 14.9 did not qualify for the record as he is a Nigerian.   WM Campbell (Glasgow University) equalled the Scottish 220 yards record of 21.5 sec.   Other outstanding performances were a mile in 4:04.3 by M Berisford (Anglo-Scottish), and a high jump of 6′ 9″ by CW Fairbrother (Victoria Park), who just failed at 6’10”.   Results:

100 yards:   1.   WM Campbell (A);   2.   A Ballantyne (S)   9.9 sec.      220 yards:   1.   WM Campbell (A);   2.    Ballantyne (S)   21.5 sec

440 yards:   1.   JS Stewart (S);   2.   RL Hay (A).   49.6 sec.                  880 yards:   1.   WB Morrison (S);   2.   N Donnachie (S).   1:54.6

Mile:   1.   M Berisford (S);   2.   J McLatchie (S)    4:04.3.                    Three Miles:   1.   JH Linaker (S);  2.   A Brown.   14:48.3

120y Hurdles:   A Belleh (S);  2.   GA Maclachlan (S)   14.9 sec.           440y hurdles:  1.   Hay (A);   2.   R Rae (S).   54.7 sec.

High Jump:   1.   CW Fairbrother (S);   2.   DS Cairns (S).   6’9″          Long Jump:   1.   DJ Whyte (A);   2.   W Talbot (S).   21′ 1″

Triple Jump:   1.   DJ Whyte (A);   2.   DR McKechnie (S)   45′ 11″       Pole Vault:  1.   DD Stevenson (A);   2.   DL Earle (S).   13′ 6″

Shot Putt:   1.   AL Sutherland (A);   2.   J Scott (S).   45′ 8″                  Discus:   1.   G Thomson (S);   2.   WA Simpson (A)   141′ 0.5″

Javelin:   1.   CF Riach (S);   2.   CR Keith (A)   178′ 2.5″

4 x 110 yards relay:   1.   Atalanta  (AJ Patrick, W Russell, DJ Whyte, WM Campbell)   43.6 seconds.

The results have been set out in such detail to indicate the progress that had been made in the Atalanta team and its standing in Scottish athletics at the time.   There were now 17 events on the programme, the complete programme except for the Hammer, and both teams turned out quality athletes looking down the list there are several British internationalists, many Scottish internationalists and two GB team captains in Campbell and Fairbrother.   If we even look at the third placed competitors we see names like JC Togher (100y), J Bogan (half-mile), WH Watson (mile), RR Mills (440H), P Milligan (pole vault), L Bryce (shot).

Atalanta Oxford 63

Atalanta returning from Oxford, 1963

Willie Russell in the hat and shades, John Asher on the extreme right,  in front with the duffle coat is John Glennie who became secretary of Atalanta, Alick Miller is the one with his face half hidden,

Atalanta as a club did not travel very much but on 27th April, 1963, they went to Iffley Road in Oxford where the match was between Loughborough Colleges (69),  Oxford University (60) and Atalanta (58).    Among the interesting results Frank Dick was third in the 880 yards (1:56.6), John Boulter second in the Mile (4:00.66), Stuart Storey won the 120y Hurdles in 14.8 and John H Cooper the 220y H and the 440y Hurdles in 24.7 and 53.1.   The Atalanta placings were 100y  2nd J Gibbons  10.2; 220y  3rd A Miller  22.7;   440y  2nd  J Steele  50.1;   880y  2nd J Wilson  1:54.5;   Three Miles:  1st  M Craven  14:06.8;  3rd C Laing  14:26.4;   440y H:  3rd RR Mills 55.9;   HJ:  1st G Balfour and 3rd G Shannon, both 5’9″;   PV:  3rd DD Stevenson  12′ 6″;  LJ:  1st RR Milles 22′ 7″, 3rd G Shannon 22′ 6 1/2″; SP  1.   S Sutherland 47’0″, 2nd D Edmunds 45′ 0 1/2″;   4 x 110 yards relay:  1st   Atalanta (Arthur Gibbons, Alick Miller, Sandy Ewen and Ming Campbell)  42.7 seconds.

Willie Russell remembers that after the match, Oxford told the Atalanta team that they had laid on a barrel of beer at one of the students unions.   A group from Atalanta turned up just in time for the barman to open the bar.   By the time anyone from Oxford or Loughborough turned up the entire barrel of free beer had been consumed and a further barrel ordered!   There is a similarity here to Hugh Stevenson’s tale after the Pen/Cornell match in June 1966.

The fixture with the SAAA was repeated on 3rd July, 1963, SAAA won again, this time by 9 points – 71 to 62.   This time there was a full programme of all the standard track events up to Three Miles including both hurdles distances and two relays, four jumps and four throws.   The quality was again of the highest but the windy weather did not help performances.   Nevertheless, DD Stevenson (A) equalled his Scottish record of 14′ 0.5″ in the pole vault and the best race of the night was said to be the half-mile where Roderick MacFarquhar (Aberdeen University, representing Atalanta) beat Anglo JE Wenk who was running as a guest – they were both timed at 1:54.2 but MacFarquhar got the verdict. At the end of the year he was seventh on the Scottish ranking list for the distance.   Note too that despite the wind Fergus Murray ran a whole minute quicker than John Linaker did the previous year.  Results:

100 yards:   J Togher (S)  9.9 sec;   220 yards:   J Togher  (S)  22.1 sec;   440 yards:   1.   WM Campbell (A)  49.4 sec;   880 yards:   R McFarquhar (A)  1:54.2;   Mile:   1.   G Brown (A)  4:14.1   Three Miles:   F Murray (A)  13:49.

4 x 110 yards relay:   1.    SAAA  43.1;   4 x 440 yards relay:   1.   SAAA   3:20.8.          120 yards hurdles:   1.   A Belleh (S)  14.9 sec;   440 yards hurdles:   1.   RR Mills (A)   56.4 sec

High Jump:   CW Fairbrother (S)  6′ 6″;   Long Jump:  1.  IC Grant (A)   22’4″;     Triple Jump:   1.   HM Murray (A)   47′ 7″;   Pole Vault:   1.   DD Stevenson (A)  14′  0.5″

Shot Putt:   1.   I Macpherson (A)  47′ 7″;   Discus:   1.   I Macpherson (A) 134′ 1.5″;   Hammer:   1.   A Valentine (S)  168′ 2″;   Javelin:   1.   S Hill (S)   163′ 8″.

Only two years later Campbell and Murray would be competing in the Tokyo Olympic Games.

Atalanta continued to flourish through the 1960’s and Colin Youngson summarises the 1964 and 1965 fixtures.

17th June 1964 at Craiglockhart, Edinburgh.   SAAA East Districts 64; Atalanta Club 54.

East District winners included: Justin Togher, who won the 100 yards in 9.9 and the 220 in 22.5; J Convery (440 – 51.0); J Turnbull (880 in 1.58.7); Ken Ballantyne (one mile in 4.21.1); and W Hogarth (120 Hurdles in a personal best of 15.0). For Atalanta, Alastair Wood finished first in the 3 miles (14.07.4), not far in front of East’s Donald Macgregor, who set a new PB (14.09.6). Lawrie Bryce (AC) won the hammer with a distance of 174 feet 8 inches.

Hugh Stevenson tells us that he competed in this fixture in which he represented the East and was second in the high jump to D Johnston of Atalanta.

4th July 1964 at Pitreavie, Fife.   SAAA 63 points; Atalanta Club 54.

W M Campbell (Glasgow University) the SAAA triple sprint champion, and pole-vaulter Norman Foster (GU), were notable absentees from the Atalanta team. The match produced some fine races, particularly in the middle distances. In the 880, Craig Douglas (S) led from the start until 30 yards from the tape, when Scottish champion Dick Hodelet (AC) came through with a storming finish to win in 1.53.7. The mile saw a surprise defeat of SAAA champion Ken Ballantyne (S – 4.11.6) by Bill Ewing (AC) in a personal best of 4.10.6 and also Roderick Wilson (S) in another PB of 4.10.8. The Three miles featured a keen tussle between Lachie Stewart (S – 13.49.8) and Donald Macgregor (AC – 13.50.0) both times being PBs, with Mel Edwards (AC) not far behind in 13.52.8.   Les Piggott (S – 10.00) won the 100 from Ron Marshall (S – 10.1) and Bernie Nottage (AC – 10.2). Crawford Fairbrother (S) won the high jump with a height of 6 feet 6 inches.

Colin Young says that he can recall “an Atalanta dinner in Edinburgh  in 1964.  Menzies Campbell was there – possibly in the chair and M.E.L Weir ( now deceased and possibly the last secretary) would have been there. Menzies made a mild joke that we had held the dinner 3 years after the last one to avoid debate  about whether a 4 yearly one would have been quadrennial or quadriennial !

Another guest was Lord Milligan a keen supporter ( see potted biography ex google below!) and former athlete. As you can see he was a senior and respected figure in the law establishment . He was also an elder in St Giles Kirk Edinburgh which I attended during my student days in Edinburgh. The  Sunday after our Saturday  night dinner was  communion at St Giles and the noble lord was  seen sporting black eye as he processed through the kirk bearing the communion cup! I have no idea how he acquired it as I recall the dinner being quite sedate when I left!”

Wednesday 16th June 1965,  SAAA East Districts 66 points;  Atalanta 52.

At Craiglockhart. On a night with a troublesome wind,  the performance of the night was that of A Santini,  representing Atalanta who won the high jump with a clearance of 6′.

30th June 1965 at Pitreavie.   SAAA Select 80; Atalanta Club 39.

A weakened Atalanta were well beaten on this occasion. Upsets  occurred in the 880 and Javelin, when SAAA champions were beaten. The former was a great race, with Craig Douglas (S – 1.51.7, only 0.1 seconds outside the Native Record) turning the tables on Graeme Grant (S – 1.52.0). The javelin surprise was brought about by A Heath (S – 201 feet) who defeated F Riach (S – 191 feet 7 and a half inches).

In the 100, Justin Togher (S – 9.9) beat Bernie Nottage (AC – 10.0). Togher also won the 220 in 22.2. In the mile, Ken Ballantyne (S – 4.07.4) avenged 1964 defeat by overcoming Ian Macpherson (S – 4.07.8) and Bill Ewing (AC – 4.08.5), who both set new personal bests. In the 3 miles, the outstanding young runner Ian McCafferty (S – 13.42.8) ran right away from his team-mate Lachie Stewart (14.06.6). W Hogarth (S) took the 120 H in 14.9. Doug Edmunds (AC) won the shot putt with 49 feet 8 inches; and also the discus (144 feet 6 inches); while his Strathclyde University friend Lawrie Bryce (AC) was first in the hammer (176 feet 4 and a half inches).

Hugh tells us that “I attended a somewhat impromptu AGM of Atalanta at King’s, Aberdeen, at the conclusion of the Scottish Universities champs on 5 June 1965, when I was welcomed to the club, having won the 120 yds Hurdles that day. Secretary Glennie was there, as were Donald Gorrie,  MEL (Mike) Weir and a special guest, an elderly gent who had won Scot Unis 3 miles some time in the 1920s. “

University of Aberdeen

University of Aberdeen

Hugh Barrow, Scottish and British international miler recalls a meeting on 15 June 1966 between Atalanta v Pennsylvania & Cornell Universities at Westerlands where he ran in an invitation Mile.   The Americans won the match by 97 points to 83 ‘after an entertaining match in which the lead changed hands about every 10 minutes.’   The Scottish winners were Dick Hodelet (880y 1:55.3), T Patrick (Mile  4:11.9), HC Robertson (Triple Jump 46′ 10.75″)  and Graeme Grant won the invitation mile in 4:07.8.   There were Atalanta firsts and seconds in the half-mile and mile where the runners were M Sinclair and W Ewing.   Hugh Stevenson, a regular member of Atalanta teams remembers   “After the match we repaired to the tearoom upstairs in the pavilion for a feed and speeches, Mike Weir presiding. As this was before the legendary bar at Westerlands had been created, he had kindly provided a keg of beer for the athletes to help themselves to, and ‘enjoy yourselves’. I had to hold back, as I had an Inter-Honours exam the next day; it was after midnight before our bus got back to Edinburgh.”

There was also a match on 28th June 1967 at Pitreavie between Atalanta and the SAAA.    SAAA won by 73 points to 45.   Mike McLean won the half-mile from Dunky Middleton for a SAAA one-two, and Hugh Barrow for the Association held off Adrian Weatherhead of Atalanta in the mile.   Winning times were 1:58.6 and 4:16.   Atalanta victories were by Bernie Nottage (100y and 220y in 10.3 sec and 22.0), Hamish Robertson (long and triple jumps with 22′ 07″ and 43′ 07″), Douglas Edmunds (Shot 50′ 05″) and Lawrie Bryce (Hammer 181′  11.5″).

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The 1968 match against the SAAA was on June 26th at Pitreavie and was another narrow victory for Atalanta, 62 points to 55..   Colin Youngson reports that the three miles, where Blamire and Wight dead-heated in 16:05, was a farcical affair with no runners there to represent the SAAA.   Lachie Stewart, the original choice with Ian McCafferty, had given notice of his inability to compete while the latter failed to appear at all.   Alistair Blamire comments on the race: “Alex Wight and I were upset that the SAAA failed to provide any opposition, especially as we had taken the event seriously, tailing off our training, and were hoping that Lachie Stewart and/or Ian McCafferty would help us to achieve good times in their wake.   Consequently we decided to use the event as a training run and jogged round in 16:05.   It was even more annoying to be criticised by the officials who had failed to produce any opposition for us.   However it probably wasn’t their fault, and I can understand that they would be a bit cheesed off, especially when I waited for Alex as he stopped to tie his shoelace.”   

Craig Douglas (S) won the 880 again, as he did several times in the annual fixture.   Results:  100 yards:   I Turnbull (A)   10.3;  220:   M Campbell (A)  21.8;  440:  Iggy Moriarty (A) 49.6;   880: Craig Douglas  1:54.8;   Mile: Norman Morrison (S) 4:08.8;  2nd  R Wedlock (S) 4:11.6;  Three Miles: A Blamire and A Wight (A)  16:05; 120yH: W Hogarth (S) 14.8;    440yH;   AT Murray(S) 54.2 sec;  2nd  AC Robertson (S)  54.8;  4 x 110 relay: Atalanta  42.5.

High Jump: D Beck (S) 5′ 10″;   PV: DD Stevenson (A) 15’0″;   Long Jump: D Walker (S) 22′ 02″;  Triple Jump:  D McKechnie (S) 44′ 10.5″; Shot Putt: D Edmunds (A) 47’09”;   Discus:  D Fowlie (A)  134′ 9″;  2nd D Edmunds 132′ 2″;   Hammer Throw:  L Bryce (A) 193’11”; 2nd Chris Black (S – Junior) 163’06”; Javelin Throw:  D Birkmyre (A) 207′ 3″; 2nd Fowlie 198′ 04″.

Atalanta was not noted for travelling to fixtures but there had been a move that year to head south – Hugh Stevenson again:  “In summer 1968 Atalanta lined up a contest v Achilles, perhaps at Oxford.   I was Captain of EUAC that year but I did not merit selection. The match fell through, as it was unviable through the inability to raise teams.   On the day chosen for the contest, there was a friendly match with a touring Dublin Universities team at Saughton hosted by Heriot Watt along with athletes from EUAC, including some who had been in the original Atalanta selection, who had become available through its cancellation.”   

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There was also a match with the SAAA a year later on June 22nd, 1969  at Grangemouth which was won by the Atalanta Club with 104 points to the SAAA’s  92.   Not only was there a full programme, but there were also events for women on the programme which were not part of the match.   The winners in the match events were:

100 m:   B Nottage (A)  10.1;   200m:   I Turnbull (A)  22.2;   400m: M McLean (A)  49.1;   800m: C Douglas (A) 1:54.1; 1500m:  M Bradley (S)  3:50.1;  5000m:  R McKay (S)  14:24.4;   3000m S/ch:  W Ewing (A) 9:08.2;

100mH:  R Davidson (A)  15.0;   400mH:  A Robertson (S)  54.5;   4 x 100m relay:  Atalanta 43.1;    4 x 400m:  SAAA  3:18.5

High Jump:   C Fairbrother (S) 6’6″;   Pole Vault:   W McCallum (A) 11’0″;   Long Jump: H Robertson (A)  23′ 1.5″;  Triple Jump:  H Robertson (A) 48′ 1.5″

Shot Putt:  D Edmunds (A)  45′ 11.5″;   Discus:  A Black (S)  133′ 10″;   Hammer:  C Black  (S) 166’5″

There was some very good competition indeed – eg in the 400m, Ian Walker was only one tenth behind Mike McLean with Ross Bilson on 50.0, in the 1500m Alistair Blamire was only one second down on Mike Bradley with Albert Smith two seconds further back (both were Atalanta athletes); in the 5000m unplaced runners were Donald Macgregor and Alex Wight (again, both Atalanta), Ricky Taylor was only one tenth behind Robertson in the 400m hurdles.   There was genuine competition all through the programme.

The final match against the old rivals, Irish Universities, took place on 12 July, 1969, at Bellfield, University College, Dublin, but in the event it was only an Edinburgh team that took part rather than an Atalanta team and the Irish report on the meeting read:   “Scoring on this occasion involved all competitors – 1 st = 5pts, 2nd = 3 pts, 3rd = 2 pts and 4th = 1 pt, with 5 pts and 2 pts for 1st and 2nd in the 4  110 y relay, respectively.   The star performer at this intervarsity match was Andrew Webb, the Scottish national 400 m hurdles champion. He won the 440y hurdles in 54.4 sec, the 120y hurdles in 16.0 sec and the 220y in 22.6 sec.    Another Scottish visitor to impress was Alastair Blamire, the international steeplechaser, who won the one mile, covering the final 880y in 2:01.8. The match turned into a closely contested event – Edinburgh University won 8 events, Irish Universities 7 events plus the sprint relay. Edinburgh took maximum points in four events – the mile, 3 miles, discus and shot putt – while Irish Universities scored 1st/2nd combinations in the 440y, hammer, and triple jump. Irish Universities failed to field two athletes in the 3 miles.    The match went right down to the wire, giving the tallymen an arithmetic Olympiad.    Edinburgh University took the honours by 86 pts to Irish Universities 85 pts.”

That’s the official Irish version but Hugh Stevenson was the winner of the 120 yard hurdles (and not Webb who did indeed won the 440yH) in 16 seconds.   Webb also won the 100 yards in 10 seconds – not bad on wet grass.   Edinburgh University had, on the same trip a match with Queen’s in Belfast but that was a simple inter-university event.

Information about other competitions, especially post war would be of interest – for instance there are reports of some fixtures at Glenalmond in Perthshire – and will be added as and when they become available.   However it seems that this competition with the Irish team in 1969 was the last ever Atalanta match.    We have a comment from Hugh Stevenson:    I also attended an AGM in the Spartans Club, Edinburgh, in 1968 or 69, when Weir, Neil Campbell and Lord Milligan were among those present. One of the topics of discussion was the future activities of the club, given the age profile of some members. On a suggestion that we meet for occasional golf matches, Lord Milligan made the witty punning response, ‘Bowls to you!’  

It was a club that seemed to be doing well in the 60’s but it was a time when Leagues were sprouting and clubs were wanting their athletes to compete for league points.   Society was a bit more egalitarian than it had been and the elite atmosphere which at times clung to the Atalanta team was maybe a bit of a deterrent to new chaps joining.  For whatever reasons, it disappeared from view in the mid 1970’s.   But it might well be that the real death blow was the 1970 Commonwealth Games in Edinburgh:  for over a year beforehand Scottish athletics concentrated all its efforts on this fixture – and to good effect too – but it meant that fixtures of all sorts were switched around the fixture list, or in some cases dropped altogether.   Top athletes were getting invitations from many sources and racing programmes were being carefully structured and monitored.

Statistician Arnold Black notes that it was an affiliated club to the SAAA in 1972, was in the handbook and the secretary was John Glennie.  MEL (Mike) Weir was also a secretary about this time.   In 1974 it was still affiliated but no secretary or address given – by 1976 it was no longer affiliated.   The assumption has to be that it was disbanded in 1975 or 1976.   There was a match between Irish Universities, Scottish Universities, Birmingham University and the BLE President’s Select in Dublin on 14th June 1977 – but it was clearly described as a ‘Scottish Universities’ team.   What was the difference?   Atalanta was restricted to the four ancient universities and selection was not available to the newer establishments like Strathclyde or Heriot Watt.   There were also events for women in this match.   In June 1993 a series of Celtic matches were organised between Scottish Universities, Irish Universities and a Northern Ireland Athletic Federation.   Over the years the Scottish Universities team dwindled to such an extent that they pulled out in 2003.   It really was the end.

How good was it?   Well it lost more matches than it won but that’s not the only yardstick.   Was it an attractive team to compete against?   A look at the opposition tells us that many of the best teams were happy to face Atalanta: Achilles provided the opposition on several occasions, the matches against what were the best Irish students (= the best Irish athletes in most cases), the top Scottish teams in the 60’s and 70’s, Pennsylvania and Cornell from the USA.   Did it help develop Scots athletes – there is some evidence that it did so in the 30’s and some of the athletes from the 60’s reckon it helped them by giving them another level of competition.   Did it attract the top athletes?   Undoubtedly.   Look at the table below for the names of post-war athletes who competed for the Atalanta team – it is not a comprehensive list but an indicator of the range of talent which represented the club.

Name SAAA champion Scottish International GB International Commonwealth Games Olympic Games Event
WM Campbell Y Y Y Y Y Sprints
DF Macgregor Y Y Y Y Y Distance
AF Murray Y Y Y Y Y Distance
DD Stevenson Y Y Y Y Y PV

The roll call of national champions, Scottish and British internationalists and Commonwealth Games athletes includes such as Alistair Blamire, Craig Douglas, Douglas Edmunds, Bill Ewing, WS McCallum, Mike McLean, JV Paterson, Hamish Robertson, Sandy Sutherland and many more.  Among the pre-war athletes who competed for the club was Hamish Stothard – who also competed for Achilles – who was also an Olympian and GB International.  It was a genuine club – it had its own vest, and many members still have and treasure their Atalanta Club vest, it had its Annual General Meeting and as several former representatives have pointed out, there were the occasional Dinners.   One member reported that these were not held annually, maybe every three years or so.  Lord Milligan, Scottish Solicitor General and Lord Advocate who had attended both Oxford and Glasgow Universities, was a regular guest at these.   John Glennie recalls,  “I remember an athletics dinner with Lord Milligan where I did the toast albeit not quite sober or confident as a very young person in front of a Lord” .   There should maybe still be a place for the Atalanta Club.

Meanwhile, Colin Young has sent along a copy of the club constitution and member’s booklet for 1963 which is a wonderful document with lots of interesting facts contained therein.   If you are interested in the Atalanta Club, you must have a look at this Membership Card, 1963

Universities Ata vest

Atalanta Vest and Tie

Picture from Colin Young

 

1931: The Second Race

THE SECOND EDINBURGH TO GLASGOW RELAY

The race in 1931took place on Saturday 25th April with the runners sent on their way at 2:30 pm by Sir James leishman.   Of the previous year’s competing clubs Eglinton Harriers had not entered and surprisingly Dundee Thistle who had placed second were not forward.   Five additional clubs however had entered but on the day one of them, Greenock Glenpark, did not appear leaving Beith Harriers, Glasgow YMCA Kilbarchan AC and Victoria Park to raise the number to twenty one.   The Victoria Park inclusion was an interesting one as the club had only been formed the previous April at a meeting in Partick Burgh Hall.

CP Wilson of Irvine YMCA must have been very popular with his team mates when an ankle injury prevented him finishing the first stage  and before halfway Kilbarchan had also dropped out leaving nineteen clubs to finish the course.   Plebeian Harriers were again the winners approximately three and a half minutes faster than last time and Maryhill, capitalising on Dundee Thistle’s absence improved by six minutes to second with a vastly improved Garscube and Edinburgh Northern filling third and fourth positions respectively.

  1. PLEBEIAN HARRIERS.   R Clark   25:43;   M Rayne   31:24;  F Connolly   22:50;   D McGhee   31:08;   SK Tombe   27:53;   WJ Gunn   35:16;   A Ingram   30:01;   J Lamond   25:24    3:50:39
  2. MARYHILL HARRIERS.   WH Calderwood   26:56;   D McN Robertson   31:55;   JC McNair   22:34;   AW Adams   31:57;   DT Muir   29:02;   D McL Wright   34:43;   T Blakely   29:48;   D McLean   25:12.   3:52:07
  3. GARSCUBE HARRIERS.   AS Brooke   27:52;   J Girvan   32:06.6;   E Loudon   23:05.4;   D Urquhart   31:06;   RM Roxburgh   30:08;   CH Blue   37:06;   J Thomson   31:46;   DB Brooke   25:20. 3:58:30
  4. 4.   EDINBURGH NORTHERN HARRIERS.   JP Laidlaw   27:04;   M Stewart   31:46;   J Thomson   24:00;   P Addison   32:45;   W Morris   29:36;   W Johnstone   36:46;   G Lothian   31:46;   H McIntosh   25:39.
  5. Shettleston Harriers   4:00:25
  6. Monkland Harriers   4:02:50
  7. Edinburgh Southern Harriers   4:04:00
  8. Springburn Harriers   4:06:40
  9. Hamilton Harriers   4:08:05
  10. Bellahouston Harriers   4:09:14
  11. Beith Harriers   4:11:16
  12. Motherwell YMCA   4:11:26
  13. Olympic Harriers   4:11:51
  14. Victoria Park AAC   4:13:15
  15. Clydesdale Harriers   4:13:33
  16. Dumbarton AAC   4:13:54
  17. GlasgowYMCA   4:14:25
  18. Canon ASC   4:19:30
  19. Paisley Harriers   4:21:08

Fastest Stage Times

1. R Clark Plebeian Harriers 26:43 (Record)
2. M Rayne Plebeian Harriers 31:24 (Record)
3. J McNair Maryhill Harriers 22:34(Record)
4. D Urquhart Garscube Harriers 31:06(Record)
5. SK Tombe Plebeian Harriers 27:53(Record)
6. D McL Wright Maryhill Harriers 34:43
7. T Blakely Maryhill Harriers 29:48(Record)
8. D McLean Maryhill Harriers 25:12

1930: The First Race

The first running of the Edinburgh to Glasgow Relay took place on Saturday, 26th April, 1930 with a 2:30 pm start.   The agreed route was:-

St Andrew’s Square to

Maybury Cross (now a roundabout)   5 miles

Broxburn                                              5.5 miles

Wester Dechmont Farm                     4.5 miles

Armadale                                               5.5 miles

Forestfield Inn                                     6.25 miles

Airdrie War Memorial                               7 miles

Barrachnie                                              5.5 miles

Royal Exchange Square, Glasgow        5 miles

44.25 miles

With the route from Barrachnie going through Shettleston, old Edinburgh Road, Duke Street, High Street and Ingram Street.

The pre-race favourites were Maryhill Harriers and Dundee Thistle with Plebeian Harriers, Springburn Harriers, Irvine YMCA, Garscube Harriers and Bellahouston Harriers all expected to do well.

Nineteen clubs:- Bellahouston H, Canon AC, Clydesdale H, Dumbarton AAC, Dundee Thistle, Edinburgh Northern, Edinburgh Southern, Eglinton H, Garscube H, Hamilton H, Irvine YMCA, Maryhill H, Monkland H, Motherwell YMCA, Olympic H, Paisley H, Plebeian H, Shettleston H, Springburn H, entered for the race but on the day only  eighteen faced the starter, Treasurer Henderson of Edinburgh (Eglinton Harriers having withdrawn and only seventeen finished the course due to the sixth Paisley runner failing to take over at the 700 feet above sea level Forestfield Inn.   .   The race was run in fine weather and resulted in a win for Plebeian Harriers with Dundee Thistle second and Maryhill Harriers third.

A Ingram of Plebeian led at the first changeover from Dundee Thistle, Maryhill, Motherwell, Irvine and Edinburgh Southern.    There was little change at Broxburn except that Irvine were now fourth and with Edinburgh Southern fifth and Motherwell sixth.   The third stage saw one of the best runs of the afternoon when H McNair took Maryhill into the lead for the first and only time.   Plebeian, Dundee, Irvine and Motherwell followed.   On the fourth stage, JM Petrie of Dundee and O McGhee of Plebeian overtook A Mitchell of Maryhill with Irvine, Garscube and Motherwell now chasing.

The fifth stage saw WJ Gunn of Plebeian pass WS Russell of Dundee and open up a 30 second lead.   At Forestfield, Maryhill had fallen back but were still followed by Irvine, Garscube and Motherwell.   On stage six, Max Rayne ran valiantly to hold off the many time Scottish champion J Suttie Smith of Dundee and led by five yards at Airdrie.   Maryhill, Irvine and Motherwell were followed by Springburn recovering well from 13th at the first changeover.   From Airdrie to the finish there were no changes in position with the Glasgow club Plebeian Harriers moving steadily clear to win by three hundred yards.

  1. PLEBEIAN HARRIERS.   A Ingram   26:49; AM Murray   32:37;   E James   23:19;   O McGhee   32:07;   IJ Funn   28:17;   M Rayne   34:45;   PJ Connelly   30:37;   J Lamond   25:35.
  2. DUNDEE THISTLE.   W Macgregor 27:07;   J Brannan   32:23;   J Mckechnie   23:37;   JM Petrie   31:07;   W Russell   29:34;   J Suttie Smith   34:07;   A MacQueen   31:58;   WD Slidders   25:06   3:55:00
  3. MARYHILL HARRIERS.   AH Blair   27:09;   DM Robertson   32:27;   J McNair    22:39;   A Mitchell   32:28;   DT Muir   29:22;   T Blakely   37:03;   D McLean   31:11;   D McL Wright   25:54   3:58:13
  4. IRVINE YMCA.   R Wilson   27:32;   D McGowan   32:30.5;   D Aldie   23:40.5;   A Aldie   33:01;   D Kerr   30:57;   CP Wilson   36:54;      D Fry   30:33;   J Watson   25:48   4:00:55
  5. MOTHERWELL YMCA.   R Graham   27:30;   R Maitland   33:30.5;   R Simpson   23:16.5; WJ McEwan   34:48;   J Archibald   30:23;   JNH Gardiner   36:26;   D Shaw   32:23;   WH Gardiner   25:35   4:03:51
  6. Springburn Harriers   J Stevenson   28:22;   J Mars   33:39.5;   J MacKay   23:54.5;   W Grant   33:13;   G Tully   30:23;   R Allison   36:52;   E Campbell   32:04;   A Stevenson   25:38.   4:04:06
  7. Garscube Harriers   4:04;17
  8. Bellahouston Harriers   4:04:47
  9. Monkland Harriers   4:06:16
  10. Edinburgh Southern Harriers   4:06:40
  11. Shettleston Harriers   4:08:16
  12. Hamilton Harriers   4:09:37
  13. Edinburgh Northern Harriers   4:13:02
  14. Dumbarton AAC   4:13:54
  15. Canon AC   4:15:08
  16. Olympic Harriers   4:15:11
  17. Clydesdale Harriers   4:16:24

Inaugural Stage Records

1. A Ingram Plebeian Harriers 26:49.5
2. J Brannan Dundee Thistle 32:23
3. J McNair Maryhill Harriers 22:39
4. JM Petrie Dundee Thistle 31:07.5
5. WJ Gunn Plebeian Harriers 28:17
6. J Suttie Smith Dundee Thistle 34:07
7. D Scott Monkland Harriers 30:18
8. FL Stevenson Monkland Harriers 24:22

1930-39 Races

The story of the origins of the race and the first races are fascinating for all interested in the development of the sport in Scotland and are also of interest to the general running population.    Des Yuill of Maryhill Harriers and Cambuslang Harriers wrote a series of articles for the Scottish Marathon Club magazine in 1985 and 1986 covering the 1930 to 1939 period.   It would be a shame for the information to disappear from the public domain so I am reproducing them here as they appeared in the magazine.   

The races of 1930 and 1931 were published with an introduction by Des in October 1985.  

*****

“THE EDINBURGH TO GLASGOW”

by Des Yuill

“April 1932 and Gordon Porteous comes home to win the Edinburgh to Glasgow Relay for his club the Maryhill Harriers.”   These are the words that opened a television documentary about veteran athletes and featured Gordon and his great friend, clubmate and rival John Emmett Farrell.   It’s a wonderful little film and I have it recorded for my video and never tire of watching it.   It came about three years ago and at that time I was the convener of the Edinburgh to Glasgow relay and because of that I noticed a mistake that probably most of the other viewers missed.  

Maryhill Harriers didn’t win the race in 1932.   They were third in 1930, they were second in 1931 and they were third again in 1933.   It wasn’t in fact until 1939 that Mayhill Harriers achieved what was to be their one and only victory in the race so the photograph of Gordon running through the finishing tape that opened the TV film was from 1939 and not 1932.  

It appears that the first two races were jointly organised by the Scottish AAA and the Scottish National Cross Country Union but nothing happened in 1932.   When the 1933 race came round, both these bodies were again involved but a third party had appeared because even in those days our sport sought and welcomed sponsorship.   The sponsor in this case was “The News Of The World” and their link with the race was to last until the mid-1970’s.

The result of this is that the “News Of The World” Trophy which bears the names of the winners would lead one to believe that last November’s 1984 race, won by Falkirk Victoria, was the 44th but historically there have been in fact 46 races in the series.  

Another glaring error comes to light if you possess a copy of one of the excellent programmes which for many years were produced by “The News Of The World” on race day.   They list as the first winners of their trophy Plebeian Harriers in a time of 4 hours 7 minutes 5 seconds.   This was not the case.   Plebeian, having won the 1930 race in 3 hours 54 minutes 7 seconds and the 1931 race in 3 hours 50 minutes and 39 seconds faced a head win in completing their hat trick in 3 hours 59 minutes 17 seconds.  

So there you are, the research is hardly started and yet mistakes and errors are coming to light but surely this gives us an opportunity to set the records straight.   Colin Youngson who started the ball rolling with his two really excellent articles has obviously got more to come and I’m sure that many of you could pitch in with stories and facts to keep the series running.   I’ve got a lot of accurate information about the early races and to follow up Dave Taylor’s excellent suggestion we should attempt to trace the history of this last great point to point race in Scotland.   By Dave’s reckoning two races per quarterly magazine would keep the E-G saga running to the end of the century.   OK, if two per magazine is too slow, we could double up with two from the thirties and two from the sixties.   We could watch the records unfold.   Which club has won it most?   Who holds the most stage records?   Who has run it most?   I fancied it might be Hugh Barrow but Hugh thinks Brian McAusland has run it over twenty times for Clydesdale.  

I’m prepared to start with reports of the early races but I will more than welcome reports, photographs, anecdotes from all sources, so come on club historians, dig out the material.   Has Colin Youngson competed for most clubs or is it Davie Lang?   Which stage has had its record broken most?   Which stage has altered most?   That’s easy – the seventh but don’t forget the stories and if I’m starting the history, I’m also starting the tales!

Having been race convener several times and officiated numerous times let me surprise you by telling you that I’ve also run in the race (one).   It was in the early sixties and I ran the fourth leg for Maryhill.   I handed over to John Emmett Farrell who although in his fifties was still able to command  a place in Maryhill’s team.   In those days of few cars the bus for the runners was parked half a mile beyond the changeover.   Just as Dick Hodelet and myself (name dropper) reached the bus we had to assist another athlete on board.   Yes it was John Emmett Farrell injured and out of the race.   Guess who was waiting at Barrachnie to run the last leg and perhaps break the tape and have his photograph taken?   Got it?   It was Gordon Porteous.

Well I don’t know who won in 1932 but I sure know who didn’t win in 1962 but that is not why I started this story!

[That’s Des’s introduction – the whole of what follows is his and I heartily recommend it in its entirety.]

 

1930     1931    

Murder Most Foul

The Death of the E-G

The Death of the Edinburgh to Glasgow

(aka the ‘E-G’ and ‘The News of the World’)

If the race was so popular and so good why did it die?   It had everything going for it:

* The affection of runners and officials who made it the centre of the first half of the winter – this was reflected in the atmosphere leading up to the race and on the day itself.   I have seen banners and special T Shirts, I have heard trumpets, bugles and drums enough to do a small orchestra and clubs with not a lot of money saved up to hire a bus of their own for the race.   Every club had a difficult to get on with guy who was a good athlete – clubs made their peace with them until after tea time on the race day!

* Tradition – it had been going on since 1930 and many clubs had a long list of past performances  which was kept rigorously up to date, produced weeks before the race and comparative times noted and discussed.

*  As a publicity item it was without equal.   One of the biggest papers in the UK had been shovelling money into it and writing it up the day afterwards and even after the sponsorship was reduced and then stopped, it was still covering the race; it was written up by other papers and the ‘Herald’ always had good detailed coverage on the Monday in particular and the ‘Scotsman’ always had the annual picture of the start inside the back page on the Monday.   The publicity could never have been bought by the SCCU.

*   As  a spur to performance for athletes and clubs it had an entirely beneficial effect.   It is easy enough to lament the passing of a separate Scottish team in the World Cross Country Championships and I have lamented and made moan with the best of them, but the loss of the E-G was at least as serious.   There was a dynamism at the start of the cross country season then that is now missing.   The cause?   The loss of the E-G which gave a focus and an attainable target for dozens and dozens of club runners who would be stars for a day……………………..and on the same day every year afterwards when folk said “Do you mind the year when…?”   Twenty clubs listing twenty runners each, twenty score Scots with an ambition at the very start of the winter.   All gone.

And Why?    Mainly because some officials in Edinburgh decided that it would have to go.   Reasons were given but they were the sort of reasons that a tired and irritable parent gives to a particularly bothersome child.   Not real reasons but with maybe a grain of truth in them.   Ostensibly it was because of lack of police permission, apparently it was because the roads were getting too dangerous but both of those could have been got around.   A half hearted attempt was made to find an off road course between the two cities but when there was a minor hiccup it was simply abandoned.   No consultation with the clubs merely a passing of information about a decision that had basically already been taken.   

If we look at the road safety aspects of the decision then two points stand right out.   First almost all the runners were road runners which means that they trained and raced on roads all the time.   Training daily in the streets of Glasgow, Edinburgh, Dundee or Aberdeen had made them all streetwise to the nth degree with senses tuned to the situations that they faced day and daily.   Nor were the drivers to be encountered on the roads any more good or bad than those met daily.  Indeed many runners ran to work on dark mornings daily sharing the road with rush hour traffic.   Second, having run in or followed the race from the mid 1950’s to the 2000’s I only knew of two traffic related incidents – one in the 50’s  and one in 1960 .   Two in fifty years and none in the last 44 years of the race’s existence is not a bad record.   So you had well trained runners with good road sense running in a race with two minor accidents in more than 50 years.   Unfortunately minds were made up at the Gyle well in advance and no doubt existed in their minds that it was a good thing to end the race.

Suggestions were made but ignored.    The two main principles of the race were that the cities of Edinburgh and Glasgow were involved and the race had to have only twenty invited teams.   It could of course have been run backwards as it has been in the past – ie Glasgow to Edinburgh.   Starting at Crown Point at 8:30 it would be clear of the crowds in Airdrie before they were even up!   Ending at Ingliston would not have meant running through Edinburgh either.    Or how about really radical measures like running it in the dark?   Running through the night is a wonderful feeling – even I used to feel that I was running fast – and poems such as the ‘Night Runners’ have been written about it.   Start it at midnight in Edinburgh.   That would give us a wonderful race to have on the calendar.   If you want to make it more dramatic, the men could carry flaming torches instead of batons and pass them from hand to hand.  As the torch burned down the last stages would have to hurry home before it did them some damage!     There’s two suggestions.  If you want more I could come up with another two or three.   Others could come up with more and better!

But there are people alive today in Scotland with murder on their CV.

 

Race Day

Start

So what was the actual race day like for most competitors?   Well you have to remember that for clubs and runners it had been going on for some time already – like the days of Creation, race day for the E-G was not a normal day of 24 hours!   For the E-G the DAY was something like 31 x 24 hours that runners, officials and supporters had been waiting for!   Selection was part of that  – many club committees picked the last man or two on a trial in a straight race such as the Glasgow University 5 or put them all on the first stage of the Allan Scally.   Either was a great folly in my view.   In such a trial the guys went head to head and I almost lost out one year to a fast finisher who just sat on me and tried to scoosh past at the finish.   Others who should have been in teams missed out because of this kind of trial.   One of the big things about the relay was that you were often running in the middle of nowhere and had to judge the pace of the stage from start to finish on your own, or you took over 40 or 50 yards up on the opposition and could not get carried away into trying to drop him with a fast early half to the race – you were not running against who you could see but against the entire race including mainly yourself.   A proper selection would have been to put the runners all on the later stages of the Scally when it was impossible to do a straight race against your main club opponent.   However, we’ll suppose that you succeeded and made the team.

It was up in the morning very early to get to the bus – or latterly your lift – for the journey through to Edinburgh.   You felt cold all the way through despite being heavily wrapped.   The wrapping was essential because you would be really cold after your leg if you had run it properly and would need several layers on.   You might have a flask of soup or coffee or tea plus a couple of sandwiches for sustenance.   If you were running third or later you could probably get a tea plus a bacon and egg roll in the cafe just along from the Flora Stevenson School at the start.    (That’s another thing – you found out about the geography of central Scotland in terms of toilets available at 5 mile intervals all the way across as well as the occasional tea room.   For toilets there had to be one at the start and we used to use those in two swimming pools, at least two pubs and at the start of the fourth stage there was a big cow shed that was always open on race day!   It was a VERY educational race!)   The atmosphere really started building when you arrived at the starting venue and met guys from other clubs: they all had an “if only…” story.   eg if only Jim Anglo had been able to make it up …., if only Jim X hadn’t done in his tendon….  , if only Jim Y’s change of club had come through in time…..(guess the guy’s new club according to your prejudices!)   You could hear snippets of conversation like “What shoes are you wearing?”, “Do you think it’s cold enough for a T shirt under the vest?” and so on.   Then there was the enigmatic guy who sometimes ran brilliantly and sometimes like unadulterated excrement sitting quietly in the corner -was that a good sign or a bad sign?   Was he getting unnecessarily worked up or was he just settling himself for a good run?    The the runners were out and warming up – sometimes a runner from the third or fourth leg would do the warm up with his first stage runner.    There were supporters everywhere and friends from other clubs who were there asking as usual how you were feeling were today regarded with suspicion: why did they want to know anyway?   The runners for the second stage were whisked away early in their bus so that they had time to get warmed up before their start.   Atmosphere mounted.   The runners were lined up outside the Fettes College Gates, supporters primed their cameras and their lungs, the ceremonial baton was presented to the lead runner of last year’s winning club and the photos taken.   A moment of silence and the gun was fired and the runners took off.   From the start the trail went a couple of hundred yards in the wrong direction, then a right angle turn to the right, another couple of hundred yards and another right angle turn to the right and straight on to the roundabout before a lind of half left up a longish drag.   I usually did nearly a pb 400 yards round that square and still had another 5+ miles to go.   Young guys always took that bit too hard – I remember one year coming off the roundabout in about 12th place with young Davie Tees of Springburn in front and Eddie Sinclair shouting at him to steady up a bit but not in those terms!    I had him before the second drag.  Many young runners – Fraser McPherson of Vicky Park was one and a whole host of University men – were guilty of this.    With even minimum experience you knew the opposition and how you were going to run it anyway but sometimes you were thrown what the Americans would call a curve ball.   The organisers were guilty now and then of putting in foreign teams and composite teams as a novelty!    One year there was a Scandinavian collection and another there was an American group known collectively as the Kangaroos who were composite teams, then there was the Irish Achilles team with the Hannon brothers running; there were teams representing the North of Scotland and one year there was a team of eight good men and true whose clubs would not make the race but they were united to make a composite team.   They complicated things a good deal at times but since Scottish athletics is basically predictable in terms of race outcomes they provided a welcome challenge.   That typifies the E-G feeling: delight that you were running, dread that you might not be up to the challenge, and a superb feeling of exhilaration if you knew that you had run well and not let anybody down.   The E-G was no place for bottle merchants!

The atmosphere was such that you had to really concentrate on doing your own running – if you heard what the supporters were saying you were not doing your job.   The first time I ran I was like the rabbit caught in the headlights and didn’t even know where I was placed at the changeover.   I thought I was last but I was actually thirteenth or fourteenth – there was no idea how that many people got behind me.   They must have hidden up a close (or since it was Edinburgh up a common entrance!) until I passed.    You had to be conscious of cars hooting, a lonely bugle blowing more to give the blower something to do to relieve his tension than to encourage someone specific, cars with ambitions to be barbers shaving your legs, the confusion of ordinary Edinburghensians and a general feeling of chaos and you were at the centre of it trying to keep your pace going, keep your awareness of the opposition and NOT BLOW IT.    One year I was running five or ten yards adrift of Alex Brown with about two  miles to go when Andy Brown appeared at the kerbside shouting to Alex “Two miles to go – nine minutes running!”   Well it would be more for me but it meant that the finish was near and if I could relax and work a bit maybe I’d be done in just over 10 minutes.   It was a superb but terrifying ordeal and it was the best feeling in athletics to be racing in the E-G!   As the first runners came to the one mile to go sign just before the top of the road up from Barnton the first jogging spectators were to be seen – every club had runners who hadn’t made the team but wanted to be part of it out there jogging and shouting and sweating and sometimes swearing at their man – before coming over the top and swooping down the hill to the finish.   If you were running well it was a wonderful finish to your leg.   Your man there, facing forward but looking backward, club men telling him you were coming when he knew fine well that you were coming.   Then crossing the line and before you could do anything for yourself someone would throw a coat, jacket, blanket over your shoulders and march you to the nearest club car unless you could persuade them to let you get your tracksuit from the bus first.    Then it was onwards getting out every mile or so to encourage your team mate who wouldn’t actually hear what you were saying but would at least see your encouraging presence!

Connolly Mercer

Joe Connolly with fastest time for the first stage in the post war series handing over to Tommy Mercer in 1955:

Joe McGhee Shettleston) and Pat Younger (Clydesdale) waiting for their runners to arrive.

The second leg runner would travel to his starting point before the first stage started to do his own warm up and get his head right for what was to come.   Word would come through that Hamish on the first leg was running a blinder and well up there in the first three or four, then someone else would rush up to let you know that Hamish had totally lost it and blown up (the stupid b*gg*r had started too bl**dy fast as usual!), then just before they arrived over the top of the hill the news would be that he had just come through a bad patch after a good start and was now working his way back through the field.   The net result would be that the guy you thought would be eighth or ninth was actually ninth or tenth.   You watched your man come in, the sweat was more nerves than anything else, you were clocking where the opposition was (“Damn it he’s 40 yards up on Vicky Park – he should know it’s better  for me to be 40 yards down for the handover”), getting a final  pat on the back from a club member (why was it only the E-G that inspired folk to pat each other on the back?  Scots don’t do pats on the back!), throwing your last top away anywhere when the baton was within reach and then you were in business.   There were two lots of people on the second stage – those who deserved to be there as of right like Ian Stewart and company and those who were their club’s last best hope.   The former group all knew each other well, had a healthy respect for each other and ran in a confident purposeful manner; the others ran with panic as a companion.   Their one real though was please don’t let me be last.   Was that Lachie Stewart still warming up for Vale of Leven and starting behind me?   More bugles, more club banners, more buses – and more miles for each runner.   There was an added issue for the second stage runners – it was A for Anglos!    There were several categories of Anglos in the race – those like Hugh Elder of Dumbarton, Bill Kerr of Victoria Park or Jim Dingwall who had gone South for employment or studying and came back for the event and they were OK, there were guys who were bona fide Scots with a longish connection with a Scottish club like Jim Alder at Edinburgh AC and then there were the guys who popped up one year from nowhere and the from time to time for the E-G – guys like the aforementioned Ian Stewart who had no known connection with Aberdeen before he turned up one year to run for them.   Then there was Ian McIntosh (or was it Ian McMillan?) who ran occasionally for EAC?   I spoke to this guy on our bus who was cheering on one of the Knowles twins but when I asked him which one it was he confessed he didn’t know because he only came up once in the year.   These guys were not welcome but when a strange accent was heard at the start of the second leg the question was, was he as good as his running suggested at the start of the run or would he come back later?    There was no way of knowing and it also added to the challenge of a race situation that was out of the control of the runner himself.

By now the race was starting to stretch out a bit and there was a rule that any club half an hour behind the leaders would be pulled from the race and although I can only remember one club actually being removed it was a threat.    Stages three and four would probably determine in which quarter of the field your club would  finish.    There was always a temptation to put your weakest runner on the third stage because it was the shortest but there were problems there too – if the weakest runner was in a position where he would have to retrieve ground lost on the second stage, would he be up to it or would the gap be increased to uncatchable proportions?    If the weakest runner didn’t run well on hills what would he be like on the severe undulations of the stage?   Would it not be better to put him on the seventh?   The pressure was still on although the race traffic had thinned out a bit by now, clubs were running in groups and it was possible to make good progress while you were still in the first half of the race.   Club officials, supporters and runners who had already done their stint would have watches out, calculating distances between the clubs, deciding whether their man could get the club in front.   Whether they thought so or not, they would tell the athlete that he could get his man easily!

The third was important because it was really the last chance for clubs down the order to get back on terms with the main body of the race before the back of the race was broken by the fourth and fifth stages.   Like the first stage, there were four fairly serious gradients on the third one and a couple of difficult road junctions.   So the runner was doing his best with a diminishing number of cars and supporters vehicles around – for most clubs the first three or four were well away and the officials were wanting to see the front runners.   However every group of runners produced a real race.   Maybe there were just three or four clubs swapping places but their members were all hoping their squad could make a break and start chasing the next group up.    You would pass a carload of supporters from another club that you knew well and they would look at their watches, look at you, look back at their watches and shake their heads.    Then you counted the lamp posts until they started cheering on their own man  trying to estimate the lead you had on him.    Your own men were at the side of the road at least every half mile shouting encouragement trying to give you information that you couldn’t take in.   There was no opportunity at any point to just relax and get on with the running.   In all the races I ever ran or watched I only once saw a club official having a go at a runner immediately after his run and that was at the start of the fifth stage when the runner was standing exhausted leaning his back on the boot of the car with this fellow haranguing him for not trying hard enough.   It was a bit if a disgrace but the supporter was really feeling the pressure and was no doubt getting some therapy from the situation.   Another indication of the strength of feeling engendered by the race.

Trotters

Supporters everywhere – like every club the Trotters tried to be everywhere!

The fourth was usually the third man in the team racing other third men in teams.   It was mainly downhill on good surfaces and lots of spots for club cars to stop and help you on your way.   There was a huge temptation on this one to go too fast at the start and club support was no help to sensible restraint!   The fifth was so exposed – like Rannoch Moor with the rain but without the hills.   Whatever weather was going, you got it in spades.   Supporters cars tended to be fewer and further apart then on other legs and when you passed them then there was always someone drinking tea from a flask.    What didn’t change on either stage was the wee groups of athletes and officials from the opposition .looking at their watches, shaking their heads muttering to each other and generally trying to psych themselves up and psych you out!   When you came to the One Mile To Go sign there was a slight turn to the left and the open road seemed to keep going for ever.   The relief at the Forestfield Inn was most welcome – goodness only knows what Hughie McErlean thought when his man wasn’t there and he had to keep going for another seven miles!!!

The good thing about the sixth stage was that it was all downhill, the depressing countryside that you ran through didn’t change that at all, the bad thing was that it was seven miles all the way to the War Memorial at Airdrie.   Because it was the longest in the race and because the club had one of its very best men on the stage, support was massive throughout this stage!   Cars every mile at most, runners jogging along the road between car stops not letting you slack at all, pedestrians in Airdrie, prams in Airdrie, umbrellas on wet days in Airdrie.   In 1962 there was even snow in Airdrie with cars abandoned in the main street so deep was the snow.   That was the year that Tom O’Reilly said that it was not so much dedication as sheer bl**dy stupidity and who is to say he was wrong?   Because of the long bend round to the finish there were often runners jogging on and off the pavement that the racers didn’t see until the last minute and there was a real danger of running into them as well.   The support continued, the trumpets continued, banners were still to the fore, clubs that favoured warpaint were still extant.   And that trumpet, bugle or whatever it was still disturbed the peace.

The seventh was in many ways the easiest stage – that is a relative term, there was not in any way an easy stage in this race – because it was so far into the race, your general finishing bracket was determined and if you did blow it ever so slightly there was a man running last.   It was a good stage on which to ‘blood’ young runners.   The bad news was that you passed through Coatbridge.   I remember one year passing the five pubs opposite the War Memorial (they had one too) when a drunk approached me and asked for a light.   I ignored him and his next remark was “Away ye go, ye baldy yonk!”    I didn’t mind the yonk, but baldy?   I managed a smile when he swung his boot at me, missed and fell on his back.   Not a club supporter there when you need one.   It was very important for the club that it finished in the first fifteen to ensure inclusion next year in the race.  There was one year when I had the job on this stage and pulled the team up from sixteenth to fifteenth by using what was by then a very auld heid to pull in 2 minutes 45 seconds on the Law runner ahead.

The first year I followed the last stage in the club bus we were well behind Springburn but when we passed Tommy O’Reilly Pat Younger opened the door and looking back past Tommy shouted “Come on George White!”   George was nowhere in sight but Tommy almost soiled himself at the thought of having lost that much ground.   I also had serious words with a Bellahouston Harrier who was pacing his runner (about 100 yards ahead of Bobby Shields) and giving him regular advice about our man’s position.   Pacing is wrong and he was told in no uncertain terms but it was when I threatened to tell Brian Good win that one of his club was behaving in an illegal fashion that he finally backed down.   The last stage was about keeping a position but if possible picking one up.   On no account was the runner on the last leg to drop a place or it was the big bad burny fire for him.   It was also the case that support for the second half of the leg was almost non existent (traffic in the East End saw to that) but the relief at the end was genuine.    And the bugle or trumpet was finally silenced.

What a race – although the running race was over, the post mortems, celebrations or whatever the opposite of celebrations is, and so on would last for a couple of weeks and then it would start to pick up in September next year.    It is a pity that the race has gone – I would hope temporarily – but we were lucky to have experienced it and even more lucky to have run in it.

“Blessed was it in that dawn to be alive!”

Some People

Platform Party

The Edinburgh to Glasgow Relay was a great place for meeting people and for making new friends.    The excitement was such that you all spoke to each other.   Questions like “How much has he got on them?”    or   “Can he hold it?”    or   “Who’s your next man?”   “Where did they get HIM from?”     “What’s happened to your runner then?”   Or just chat on the bus – on my first race, a wee guy got on, sat down beside me on our way to the third leg, and said that he was really pleased, he’d always got the long leg and couldn’t get a pint at Forrestfield but this year ….    It was Harry Fenion and we always spoke after that and ended up buying each other tea and fudge doughnuts at Crown Point every Tuesday!   The chap from EAC whom I asked about the runner on the stage asking which of the Knowles twins that was, getting the reply, he didn’t know because he only came up for the E-G and the National.    Then on the first and only time that I ever ran the fourth stage, Andy Brown showed me and one other where to have a pre-race pee – in the farmer’s cow shed!   There were lots of these wee incidents.

Like the time I ran on the third stage having taken over in a kind of no man’s land and handing over having gained a place when I didn’t believe I had passed anyone.   Turned out to be a guy from St Andrew’s University (Gomersall???) .   The following year when I was at Jordanhill I ran for the College against Ayr Seaforth and St Andrew’s in the half mile, mile (gubbed in both by Jim McLatchie), three miles (gubbed by somebody else) and the six miles where I was beaten by a chap called Rough from St Andrew’s.   Trudging up from the 6 laps to the mile track (I had run 60 laps plus warm ups!   Total madness)   with him I asked how he had run in the E-G and the reply was that he didn’t race during the winter, he played football.

The strangest incident that I saw in the race was when Hughie McErlean of the Vale of Leven ran the fifth stage only to find that his team mate was not waiting for him, nor was he at the back of the crowd, nor was he to be seen anywhere.   Hughie always gave everything 100% and was totally exhausted but the officials did nothing to stop him and he just carried on to do the long leg as well.    I was in an official NoW bus and as we passed I suggested to the official in charge that we should maybe offer to pick him up.   No, he couldn’t – his instructions were to go straight to the next xhangeover with no stops.   So poor old Hugh had to soldier on for 7 more miles.    Percy Cerutty had thing where if the guys were running, say, repeat 440’s, he would suddenly leap at them as they approached the end of one to shout “Another 100, another 100” and the poor runners had to stick in a further 100.   In Hughie’s case it was “Another 7 miles, another 7 miles”   Last seen pacing about saying “Just lock me in a room with him for five minutes, just five minutes…… “

Good deeds often rebounded too.   I recall that after Garscube had been out of the race for a few years, I was running on the fifth stage as was the very good runner David Martin.    He asked if we could warm up together and friendly old me agreed.  We warmed up together and talked about the course.   In the race I moved up from 14th to 11th, he moved up from 15th to 12th and he had sixth fastest and I had seventh with only 15 seconds between us.   He was still a good guy though despite being my stalker for 5+ miles.

In the 80’s I was coaching a group of runners from Cambuslang in the squad and Jim Orr had a habit of nose bleeds before really big races – eg in the Worlds in New York he noticed blood on the ground, then he saw it on his shorts and then realised that he was bleeding.   In the E-g the year he was on five, he came racing down the road with his number decorated in club colours of red and white – the red was blood, his own blood!    The blood loss didn’t affect his running though!

E-G Memories

Coyne Fitzie 85

The Edinburgh to Glasgow Relay died in November 2002 – ‘died?’   Maybe ‘put to sleep’ would be a more accurate way to put it.   Or maybe it had been on ‘borrowed time’ for some years prior to that.   However you phrase it, it left a gaping hole in the calendar and no real attempt has been made to resuscitate it.   I’d like to mark some of the highlights from this great race over the next two weeks which meant so much to generations of runners across the land and the likes of which young athletes will never experience.    If we start with the inaugural race before going on to some personal memories.

The first race was held on 26th April 1930 and the Glasgow Herald report read as follows.

“The Edinburgh to Glasgow Road Relay Race was held on Saturday in fine weather and resulted in a win for Plebeian Harriers, Dundee Thistle Harriers being second and Maryhill Harriers third.   Keen interest was evinced in the race, big crowds assembling at the various  changeover points and lining the route.   The total distance of forty four and a half miles was divided into eight  relays, the changeovers taking place at  Maybury Cross (5 miles), Broxburn (10.5 miles), Wester Dechmont Farm (15 miles), Armadale (20.5 miles), Forrestfield Inn (26.5 miles), Airdrie War Memorial (33.75 miles), Barrachnie (39.25 miles), the finish being at Glasgow Royal Exchange.

NOVICES SHINE

Eighteen of the nineteen teams entered faced the starter, Treasurer Henderson of Edinburgh, in St Andrew’s Square Edinburgh, Eglinton Harriers being the absentees, and 17 completed the full distance, Paisley Harriers being compelled to retire, their sixth runner failing to take over at Forrestfield Inn.   As anticipated the struggle throughout lay between Plebeian Harriers, Dundee Thistle Harriers and Maryhill Harriers.   The members of the first two teams ran to form or above but there were several disappointing performers among the national champions.   Thanks to excellent running by A Ingram, the novice champion of Plebeian, his team was in front at Maybury Cross, Dundee Thistle second. Maryhill third, Motherwell fourth, Irvine fifth and Edinburgh Southern sixth.   At Broxburn the positions showed little change, save that Irvine were now fourth, Edinburgh Southern fifth and Motherwell sixth.   The next relay saw one of the best bits of running of the entire afternoon on the part of J McNair, Maryhill’s novice champion.  So well did he move that when Wester Dechmont Farm was reached, he had wiped out the deficit against him and given his club the lead for the first and only time.   Plebeian were second at this point, Dundee Thistle third with Irvine and Motherwell next in order.  

MARYHILL LOSE THE LEAD

Maryhill’s lead, however, did not survive the next section, for both JM Petrie, Dundee Thistle, and O McGhee, Plebeian, overhauled A Mitchell and the champions dropped back into third place, with Dundee Thistle and Plebeian in front and Irvine, Garscube  and Motherwell treading on their heels.   Then followed the most interesting part of the race, and the performance given by WJ Gunn and Max Rayne over the next two sectors, paved the way for the ultimate victory of Plebeian.   Leaving Armadale Gunn was 38 seconds behind WS Russell, the Dundee representative, but he moved in his very best form and not only wiped out the deficit but gave Rayne a lead of 30 seconds at Forrestfield.   At this point, Maryhill were still third but falling behind, Irvine fourth, Garscube fifth and Motherwell sixth.

SUTTIE SMITH HELD

Called up to face J Suttie Smith over the seven miles stretch to the Edinburgh War Memorial, Rayne made good use of his 30 seconds start from the champion.   Smith ran well and did get on terms with his opponent at Plains Post Office, but from then on could make nothing of him, Rayne holdin on in the pluckiest fashion to change over 5 yards in front.   At Airdrie Plebeian were still in front, Dundee Thistle second, Maryhill third, Irvine fourth. Motherwell fifth and Springburn, who after a bad beginning had gradually worked themselves up from 13th position, sixth.   From then to the finishing post, the teams ran unchanged in placings, Plebeian in the last two stages gradually consolidating their lead until at the finish they had an advantage of nearly 300 yards.   Notable performances were given during the race apart from those mentioned by D Fry and J Watson of Irvine, J MacKay and R Allison of Springburn, and by D Smith and FL Stevenson of Monkland. “

  That report shows us all the ingredients that went to make the race such a success.   The lead changing hands at the front with the first two teams at the end of the first stage being the first two teams at the end after an eight man battle all with the way with only short, temporary changes to the pattern.   The race for the minor places being fought out and several inter-club duels taking place behind the main protagonists.   I say ‘the main protagonists’ but every club was a main protagonist in the race, every one of them fighting for their place.   The final sentence in the report indicates that even in unplaced teams, very good running was taking place by talented and determined individuals.

For all of us who had the good fortune to run in the race at its best, there are many stand out memories of running individually, or by our clubs, or by other individuals or clubs.   I’ll mention some of mine next time.